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AMX 12 t

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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875,000  Credits Cost
650130 HP Hit Points
11.91/12.357.11/13.5 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator, Loader)
  2. Gunner (Loader)
  3. Driver
Mobility
250330 hp Engine Power
60/23 km/h Speed Limit
3638 deg/s Traverse
20.9946.41 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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30/20/2030/20/20 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
110/110/175135/135/175 HP Damage
108/148/38144/202/38 mm Penetration



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10.21 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 16 s
50% Crew: 20.36 s
75% Crew: 17.92 s
100% Crew: 16 s
With Vents: 15.63 s
With Vents and BiA: 15.34 s

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8.73 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 20 s
50% Crew: 25.46 s
75% Crew: 22.4 s
100% Crew: 20 s
With Vents: 19.54 s
With Vents and BiA: 19.18 s

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Rate of Fire






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949.3

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 949.3
50% Crew: 862.4
75% Crew: 908.6
100% Crew: 949.3
With Vents: 957
With Vents and BiA: 963.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 1049.4
75% Crew: 1082.4
100% Crew: 1109.9
With Vents: 1116.5
With Vents and BiA: 1120.9

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 949.3
50% Crew: 862.4
75% Crew: 908.6
100% Crew: 949.3
With Vents: 957
With Vents and BiA: 963.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 1049.4
75% Crew: 1082.4
100% Crew: 1109.9
With Vents: 1116.5
With Vents and BiA: 1120.9

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1510.25
50% Crew: 1372
75% Crew: 1445.5
100% Crew: 1510.25
With Vents: 1522.5
With Vents and BiA: 1533

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1765.75
50% Crew: 1669.5
75% Crew: 1722
100% Crew: 1765.75
With Vents: 1776.25
With Vents and BiA: 1783.25

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1102.95

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (135 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1102.95
50% Crew: 1020.6
75% Crew: 1065.15
100% Crew: 1102.95
With Vents: 1111.05
With Vents and BiA: 1116.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1263.6
50% Crew: 1209.6
75% Crew: 1239.3
100% Crew: 1263.6
With Vents: 1269
With Vents and BiA: 1273.05

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (135 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1102.95
50% Crew: 1020.6
75% Crew: 1065.15
100% Crew: 1102.95
With Vents: 1111.05
With Vents and BiA: 1116.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1263.6
50% Crew: 1209.6
75% Crew: 1239.3
100% Crew: 1263.6
With Vents: 1269
With Vents and BiA: 1273.05

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1429.75
50% Crew: 1323
75% Crew: 1380.75
100% Crew: 1429.75
With Vents: 1440.25
With Vents and BiA: 1447.25

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1638
50% Crew: 1568
75% Crew: 1606.5
100% Crew: 1638
With Vents: 1645
With Vents and BiA: 1650.25

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Damage Per Minute


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0.42 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

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0.4 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

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2.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4444 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-6°/+12°-6°/+12° Elevation Arc
3636 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

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360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

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View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 314.3 m
With 75% Crew: 357.2 m
With 100% Crew: 400 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 575.6 m

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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


VI

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875000

The AMX 12 t is a French tier 6 light tank.

This design of a light high-speed tank was developed in 1946. The vehicle was never actually produced, but became the basis for the well-known AMX 13.

This tank is the first automatic loader French light tank. The automatic loader is connected to two (only one of these is used in World of Tanks for game balance) six-shell drums in the back of the turret which are loaded with shells from the storage compartment in the rear of the tank's hull.

Due to game balance this has been further reduced to four shells in a drum, fully loaded. This allows the autoloader to rapidly unload the main gun four times in a row (on average 540 damage). The tank may then head for cover while the drum refills. Since there is no need to manually reload the main gun during the actual combat there's no need for a designated loader.

The AMX 12 t leads to the AMX 13 75.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V 75 mm SA49 108/148/38 110/110/175 10.21 0.42 2.5 1520 35640
VI 75 mm SA50 144/202/38 135/135/175 8.73 0.4 2.3 1740 64200

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V AMX B 271 250 20 340 18000
VI AMX B 272 330 20 340 25100

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V AMX 12 t 1er prototype 12.35 36 B/2 3200 10000
VI AMX 12 t 2e prototype 13.5 38 B/2 3200 16250

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Vertical Stabilizer Class 2 Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Compact size and excellent concealment values. With maximum concealment it can remain undetected even at close ranges

- Four-round autoloader

- Excellent signal range (750 upgraded)

- Best penetration for a Tier VI light; good accuracy and fast shell velocity

- Good acceleration


Cons:

- Terrible accuracy on the move, abysmal dispersion when moving the turret, long aim time

- Very low ammo count, only carrying 36 shells with the top gun

- Delicate modules -- a hit to almost any part of the tank can cause significant module damage, including engine and ammo rack

- Very poor gun elevation and mediocre depression; this can prevent you from shooting at targets on overly uneven terrain

- Below-average view range; it's tied with the MT-25 for the second lowest view range, with only the 59-16 having lower (350)


Performance

This tank introduced the concept of using an automatic loader to rapidly feed the gun with shells from a magazine, which in this case are two six-round drums in the back of the turret. Due to an older update affecting light tanks this tank was changed to having a four-round drum instead. The drum enables the tank to fire four shots rapidly, with the unfortunate side effect of taking a considerably long time to reload the whole drum. This would not be a problem if the game allowed firing shells from a partially reloaded drum, but it does not. The general tactic for this tank while in combat is to circle or flank an opponent, firing shells into their sides and rear, followed by a hasty retreat while you reload.

This tank only holds 36 rounds of ammunition with the stock and upgraded cannon. It works best as a scout and flanker, quickly zipping in and out getting spotting, and circling weaker/slower/lightly armored enemies putting shots in them, then retreating to safety and repeating. Be sure that you don't take on opponents by yourself that you cannot take out in a single clip, or quickly make a getaway from. The 12 t has paper-thin armor and won't bounce shots outside of the occasional gun or track absorption, and a single shot can easily take our your tracks or engine leaving you vulnerable.

If you're fortunate enough to be in a top tier match use your concealment values to your advantage. You can easily out-spot all lower tier tanks and safely hide within bushes, taking shots at passing tanks rather safely, making this a perfect assassin when on top. It also rather easily out-speeds other tanks, allowing for rapid maneuvers for dodging shots, flexing to other areas, and getting out of dangerous situations. With the exception of a few heavy tanks it can also clip all Tier V and under tanks with relative ease.

If you find yourself in a bottom tier match your best bet is to either find a safe bush to spot from, or make quick passes over ridges and around houses to spot opponents, and then fall back once spotted until you're un-spotted again before making another run. If you have to engage with an opponent try to rely on your speed to avoid shots and circle opponents with slow turret traverse speeds, hugging up to them in some cases to lessen the appeal to artillery attempting to aim at you.

The AMX 12 t's crew setup -- Commander (Radio Operator, Loader), Gunner (Loader), Driver -- is compatible with the AMX 13 (FL 11) and AMX 13 57 (and its GF variant), the 12 t's crew can be used in all three vehicles without penalty.

In summary the AMX 12 t is a fun little light tank to play, often taking on a more offensive stance than most other light tanks. Use it's advantages in it's excellent concealment values, rear-mounted turret, autoloader, good penetration, and speed, and help to compensate for others such as the lack of accuracy on the move or lower view range through equipment and skills.


Early Research

Unfortunately no modules carry over from the AMX ELC bis.

The stock suspension may not support all of your choice of equipment -- such as a Binocular Telescope, etc. -- but a viable complete setup can be installed, e.g.: Coated Optics, Improved Ventilation, and Low-Noise Exhaust, without a suspension upgrade. All modules -- main gun, etc. -- work on the stock chassis.

Having said that it's recommended to get the top gun right away for better penetration and accuracy (and this follows the French military practice of all tanks being able to hurt any enemy tank, no matter what they put into the field).

Beyond that it's a matter of personal preference. If you want to focus on scouting then a radio upgrade would be good, the top suspension allows any equipment desired, and of course get the engine for better mobility.


Suggested Equipment


Coated Optics Improved VentilationVertical Stabilizer 


External Reviews and Opinions

Gallery

Historical Info

The AMX 12 t is the older brother of the legendary AMX-13. The design weight of the tank was 12 tons. The AMX-13 chassis was designed as an example of this very light tank. The rear support roller was an idler wheel. However this design caused problems with the tension of the tank tracks and, in general, there was less reliability. Subsequently this was been taken into account when designing the AMX-13 -- a separate chassis was jacked up and the idler was extended, causing the hull to be lengthened.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

Planned 200hp engine is missing. The current engine configurations on the 12 t are fake.
  • Actual ammo capacity is 22 rounds, 10 in the turret and 12 reserve. In WoT, however, the 12 t can magically carry 36 rounds.


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