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 * Compact size and good camo values. * Compact size and good camo values.
?* 6-round autoloader with good accuracy, adequate pen for role and good burst+* 6-round autoloader with good accuracy, decent pen for role and high burst
 * Excellent signal range * Excellent signal range
 +* Decent view range, this combined with high camo means that it is good for passive scouting
 * Upper glacis is quite sloped, may give some lucky bounces * Upper glacis is quite sloped, may give some lucky bounces
  
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 * Terrible accuracy on the move, abysmal dispersion when moving the turret * Terrible accuracy on the move, abysmal dispersion when moving the turret
?* Low ammo count+* Very low ammo count of only 30 on the top gun
?* Frequent module damage (ammo-rack, engine, crew)+* Frequent module damage if hit (ammo-rack, engine, crew)
?* Very poor gun elevation and depression+* Very poor gun elevation and mediocre depression
?* Sluggish for a scout+* Sluggish acceleration, sometimes you cannot escape from/flank tanks because of this
  
  

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AMX 12 t

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Battle Tier
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Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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875,000  Credits Cost
650650 HP Hit Points
11.91/12.358.32/0 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator, Loader)
  2. Gunner (Loader)
  3. Driver
Mobility
250250 hp Engine Power
60/23 km/h Speed Limit
3636 deg/s Traverse
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Armor
50/20/15 mm Hull Armor
30/20/2030/20/20 mm Turret Armor
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110/110/175135/135/175 HP Damage
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10.21 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 16 s
50% Crew: 20.36 s
75% Crew: 17.92 s
100% Crew: 16 s
With Vents: 15.63 s
With Vents and BiA: 15.34 s

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8.73 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 20 s
50% Crew: 25.46 s
75% Crew: 22.4 s
100% Crew: 20 s
With Vents: 19.54 s
With Vents and BiA: 19.18 s

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949.3

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 949.3
50% Crew: 862.4
75% Crew: 908.6
100% Crew: 949.3
With Vents: 957
With Vents and BiA: 963.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 1049.4
75% Crew: 1082.4
100% Crew: 1109.9
With Vents: 1116.5
With Vents and BiA: 1120.9

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 949.3
50% Crew: 862.4
75% Crew: 908.6
100% Crew: 949.3
With Vents: 957
With Vents and BiA: 963.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 1049.4
75% Crew: 1082.4
100% Crew: 1109.9
With Vents: 1116.5
With Vents and BiA: 1120.9

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1510.25
50% Crew: 1372
75% Crew: 1445.5
100% Crew: 1510.25
With Vents: 1522.5
With Vents and BiA: 1533

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1765.75
50% Crew: 1669.5
75% Crew: 1722
100% Crew: 1765.75
With Vents: 1776.25
With Vents and BiA: 1783.25

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1102.95

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (135 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1102.95
50% Crew: 1020.6
75% Crew: 1065.15
100% Crew: 1102.95
With Vents: 1111.05
With Vents and BiA: 1116.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1263.6
50% Crew: 1209.6
75% Crew: 1239.3
100% Crew: 1263.6
With Vents: 1269
With Vents and BiA: 1273.05

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (135 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1102.95
50% Crew: 1020.6
75% Crew: 1065.15
100% Crew: 1102.95
With Vents: 1111.05
With Vents and BiA: 1116.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1263.6
50% Crew: 1209.6
75% Crew: 1239.3
100% Crew: 1263.6
With Vents: 1269
With Vents and BiA: 1273.05

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1429.75
50% Crew: 1323
75% Crew: 1380.75
100% Crew: 1429.75
With Vents: 1440.25
With Vents and BiA: 1447.25

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 1638
50% Crew: 1568
75% Crew: 1606.5
100% Crew: 1638
With Vents: 1645
With Vents and BiA: 1650.25

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Damage Per Minute


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0.42 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

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0.4 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

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2.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4444 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-6°/+12°-6°/+12° Elevation Arc
3636 rounds Ammo Capacity
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360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

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View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 314.3 m
With 75% Crew: 357.2 m
With 100% Crew: 400 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 575.6 m

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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
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VI

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875000

The AMX 12 t is a French tier 6 light tank.

This design of a light high-speed tank was developed in 1946. The vehicle was never actually produced, but became the basis for the well-known AMX 13.

This tank is the first automatic loader french light tank. The automatic loader is connected to two (only one of these is used in WoT for game balance) 6-shell drums in the back of the turret which are loaded with shells from the storage compartment in the rear of the tank's hull. This allows the autoloader to rapidly reload the main gun six times in a row (on average 810 damage). The tank may then head for cover, wilst the drum is refilled. Since there is no need to manually reload the main gun during the actual combat, there is no need for a designated loader. Though top speed is high, the AMX 12t has poor acceleration, forcing it to play the role as a passive scout.

The AMX 12 t leads to the AMX 13 75.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

V 75 mm SA49 108/148/38 110/110/175 10.21 0.42 2.5 1520 35640
VI 75 mm SA50 144/202/38 135/135/175 8.73 0.4 2.3 1740 64200

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

VI AMX 12 t 30/20/20 44 360 1500 4800

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

AMX B 271 0 18000
AMX B 272 0 25100

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

AMX 12 t 1er prototype 0 B/2 10000
AMX 12 t 2e prototype 0 B/2 16250

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Vertical Stabilizer Class 2 Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Compact size and good camo values.
  • 6-round autoloader with good accuracy, decent pen for role and high burst
  • Excellent signal range
  • Decent view range, this combined with high camo means that it is good for passive scouting
  • Upper glacis is quite sloped, may give some lucky bounces


Cons:


  • Terrible accuracy on the move, abysmal dispersion when moving the turret
  • Very low ammo count of only 30 on the top gun
  • Frequent module damage if hit (ammo-rack, engine, crew)
  • Very poor gun elevation and mediocre depression
  • Sluggish acceleration, sometimes you cannot escape from/flank tanks because of this


Performance

This tank introduces the concept of using an automatic loader to rapidly feed the gun with shells from a magazine, in this case two 6-round drums in the back of the turret. The drum enables the tank to fire six shots rapidly, with the unfortunate side effect of taking a considerably long time to reload. This would not be a problem if the game allowed firing shells from a partially reloaded drum, but it does not. As a result, a common tactic for this tank is to charge up next to or behind an enemy that's busy fighting an ally, unload all six rounds (810 average damage over 11 seconds), and run away to reload.

This tank only holds 36 rounds of ammunition with the stock cannon, and 30 with the upgraded cannon. It works best as a scout and flanker. Plan your route in and out before you make your move. This holds true when engaging in combat 1v1 - be sure that you can kill your opponent with less than a single clip, if possible, in case you don't score with all six shots. It doesn't take many hits from enemy this tank will see in battle, so if you get stopped for any reason, you're likely not to survive the encounter.

If you find yourself in a Tier 9 match, one effective tactic is to keep back from the main push and wait for targets of opportunity. After the enemy tanks have taken damage, search out the lone heavy or medium that you can damage or kill. Using any cover available, move to flank him while he is focused on your team and empty your drum magazine into the weaker armor of his sides or back.

To summarize the 12 t doesn't rely on brute force to lead charges. In higher tier games frontally penning opponents becomes a major challenge. Due to sluggish acceleration, careful planning is needed to stay alive till later phases of the game. Your burst is very useful in mid to late game when flanking but early game passively spotting is probably your best bet. Make your shots count and play safe (don't rely on all 6 shots to hit and pen). Be extremely wary of terrain features that can slow your speed. Keep in mind that the gun depression and elevation are poor.


Early Research

  • Unfortunately, no modules carry over from the ELC AMX
  • First, start by researching the better tracks, AMX 12 t Bis
  • Then, research the better gun, 75mm SA50
  • Then, the better engine and finally the better radio


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationEnhanced Gun Laying Drive Binocular Telescope Camouflage Net 


Gallery

Historical Info

AMX 12t is the older brother of the legendary AMX-13. The design weight of the tank was 12 tons. The AMX-13 chassis was designed as an example of this very light tank. The rear support roller was an idler wheel. However, this design caused problems with the tension of the tank tracks and, in general, there was less reliable. Subsequently, it was been taken into account when designing the AMX-13: A separate chassis was jacked up and the idler was extended, causing the hull to be lengthened.


Historical Gallery


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