Indien-Panzer
Indien-Panzer
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[Client Values; Actual values in
2,420,000  Cost |
| 1300260 HP Hit Points |
| 39.87/4022.71/43 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
| 500670 hp Engine Power |
| 55/20 km/h Speed Limit |
| 3438 deg/s Traverse |
| 12.5429.5 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
| YesYes Pivot |
| // mm Hull Armor |
| 90/90/4590/90/45 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
252/3200/252
300/4400/255 Shell Cost |
| 220/220/270250/250/330 HP Damage |
| 145/194/44218/259/90 mm Penetration |
|
9.38 r/m ▲
8.33 r/m Standard Gun ▲ Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
|
2063.6 ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
2082.5 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲ Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
|
0.38 m ▲
0.32 m With 50% Crew: 0.471 m ▲ Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.396 m |
| 2.3 s 2 s Aim time |
| 3636 deg/s Turret Traverse |
| 360° Gun Arc |
| -10°/+20°-10°/+20° Elevation Arc |
| 7361 rounds Ammo Capacity |
| 1512 % Chance of Fire |
| 380 m 380 m View Range |
| 310 m 720 m Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 11.89%
- When Moving: 9.14%
- When Firing: 2.69%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 1.06
- On Medium Ground: 1.15
- On Soft Ground: 2.21
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.12
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.21
- Turning: 0.21
With 100% Crew
VIII
2420000
The Indien-Panzer is a German tier 8 medium tank.
This project was developed as a medium tank for the Indian Army. The work on the project was carried out by Porsche, Daimler-Benz, and Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen from 1954 through 1955. However, the vehicle was deemed to be too complicated for production in India, and the project was canceled.
Freshly purchased and stock, the Indien-Panzer mounts the extremely inadequate 88mm L/56 gun, so a fast upgrade is a must. The Indien-Panzer is not as fast as the Panther II but has superior track and turret traverse speed and, like the Panther, excels at the sniping role, taking down enemies from afar with superb accuracy. The Indien-Panzer's compact size and very small turret combined with superb gun elevation angles give it many advantages when hull-down. Furthermore, its thin yet extremely sloped frontal armor can be surprisingly bouncy. However, although effectively better than the Panther II's, its 90mm-thick armor is nothing to boast about. Major setbacks may include the long aiming time, sluggish acceleration, and the paper-thin gun mantlet.
The Indien-Panzer leads to the Leopard Prototyp A.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Guns
| Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price (  )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 | 145/194/44 | 220/220/270 | 9.38 | 0.38 | 2.3 | 2050 | 66000 | |
| VIII | 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 | 203/237/44 | 240/240/295 | 7.79 | 0.34 | 2.5 | 2562 | 112180 | |
| VIII | 9 cm Kanone | 218/259/90 | 250/250/330 | 8.33 | 0.32 | 2 | 1650 | 118000 |
Engines
| Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| IX | MTU MB 837 Ba 500 | 670 | 12 | 1500 | 65800 | |
| VIII | MTU MB 837 Aa 500 | 500 | 15 | 1500 | 41000 |
Suspensions
| Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | B-PS 102 | 40 | 34 | 0 | 10000 | 17500 | |
| VIII | Indien-Panzer | 43 | 38 | 0 | 10000 | 30100 |
Radios
| Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| III | FuG 5 | 310 | 50 | 630 | |
| VI | FuG 7 | 415 | 70 | 8160 | |
| IX | AN/GRC-4 | 720 | 80 | 45500 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Excellent gun depression
- Narrow turret is hard to hit, especially if hull-down and rocking side-to-side
- Good all-round cannon - average alpha, good DPM, high shell velocity, fast aim time, low dispersion
- Above-average maneuverability
Cons:
- Bad gun handling, not advised to do snap shots
- Average acceleration, somewhat poor ground resistances
- Weak overall armor and fragile ammo rack, though its roundness can lead to bounces
- Low hit points pool - even less than the T69, and on par with the T-44 and Chinese mediums
- Relatively poor camouflage and mediocre view range
Performance
The Indien-Panzer is very similar, yet quite different from the alternate tier 8 German medium tank, the Panther II. Unlike the Indien-Panzer, the Panther II offers an Tier IX 8,8 cm gun, boasting high penetration and extreme accuracy. The Indien-Panzer however, in return offers a 9 cm gun, which can be researched after researching the 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun shared by both vehicles (which has almost identical stats on both the Panther and Indien). This slightly-improved 9 cm gun increases the Indien-Panzer's DPM by roughly 200 damage, nothing to get excited about. Though the Indien-Panzer has a weaker engine than the Panther II, it sports much less weight thus producing higher mobility. In addition, the Indien has much higher track traverse speed, which makes it handle much better than the Panther.
In comparison to the other tier 8 medium tanks, the Indien-Panzer boasts a decent penetration AP round at 212 pen, good APCR at 259 and great HE at 90, and alpha damage of 250/250/330 hitpoints. Its engine has a very low chance of catching on fire, unlike Maybach gasoline engines, a common choice in German vehicles. Probably the most distinguishing advantage of the Indien-Panzer is its excellent gun depression coupled with a very small and difficult-to-hit turret and high damage per minute. Unfortunately, the turret won't hold up if it does get hit. Finding and getting used to the Indien's play style will prepare its driver for the next tanks in the line, the Leopards, which are very similar in being very flexible, maneuverable, potent snipers, and capable jack-of-all-trades.
As for the play-style itself, it can be best described as a highly mobile turreted tank destroyer, a pure support medium. Stay back in the second line, use your gun depression to expose as little as possible, hide behind bushes to aim in, keep the gun firing from stationary positions, and when needed, you can spot some targets and move to another fixed position and keep up a steady stream of effective support fire. With your high DPM and reliable mix of penetration and accuracy, you can bleed down enemies from afar. If you need to shoot on the move, it's important to practice "bloom control": minimize turning of both the hull and turret so that when you let the shot fly, you're effectively partially aimed in to begin with. This is, in common with the AMX 50 100, a very important skill to learn, as firing while on the move with both the hull and turret traversing in either is almost a guaranteed miss, even at point-blank ranges.
- Note that Update 1.5.1 buffed the tank, boosting its DPM, dispersion, gun handling, aim time, power/weight ratio and AP/HE penetration.
Early Research
The stock gun is thoroughly inadequate, and the upgrade should be researched early. Unfortunately, you can't mount the second gun or any equipment before upgrading the tracks or adding Enhanced Leaf Springs class 2. However, you can grind with the stock gun and get the 9 cm gun which is lighter and thus will allow you to mount it without having to get the upgraded tracks, but this grind can be rather painful with the stock gun's aforementioned poor stats, The top engine and top radio are unlocked when you research Leopard PT A, but consider at least researching the updated engine beforehand to improve your mobility.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
The Indian panzer competed with the British design, which the Indians eventually choose. Interestingly the Vickers tank was built entirely from welded rolled steel plates. According to some sources this feature was seen as an advantage by the Indian army, who wanted the tank to be license built in the country. Cast armor requires special foundry facilities, which were not available in India at the time the Vickers tank was developed. The Porsche design, on the contrary, had cast turret and much of the hull, so to build it in India might have been considered not impossible but surely quite difficult and expensive.
The project was rejected in the drawing phase, and no prototypes were ever built. The Indians eventually went for the Vickers MBT whose prototype was completed in 1963 and the tank entered service in 1965. The first 90 vehicles were built by Vickers in the UK, while production continued at the Heavy Vehicles Factory in Avadi. A total of 2,200 units under the name Vijayanta were built until 1983 when the production was stopped.
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
The Indien-Panzer's only planned armament was the 90mm cannon, both 88mm configurations is fake, especially considered that the tank was designed in 1954, 9 years after the World War 2 ended.
