VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A

Germany | Heavy Tank | Tier VIII

Battle Tier

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Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.

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2,435,000   Cost

1470394 HP Hit Points

53.57/54.1825.32/59.2 t Weight Limit

Crew

1. Commander
2. Gunner
3. Driver
4. Radio Operator
5. Loader

Mobility

600840 hp Engine Power

38/16 km/h Speed Limit

2528 deg/s Traverse

11.233.18 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio

YesYes Pivot

Armor

// mm Hull Armor

100/80/80185/80/80 mm Turret Armor

Armament

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252/3200/252 1030/4800/650 Shell Cost

220/220/270320/320/420 HP Damage

145/194/44200/244/60 mm Penetration

| |}} | |}} 9.23 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 6.5 s 50% Crew: 8.05 s 75% Crew: 7.03 s 100% Crew: 6.23 s Rammer: 5.61 s Vents: 6.09 s Both: 5.48 s Both and BiA: 5.36 s Both and Max Crew %: 5.14 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. | |}} | |}} 5.94 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 10.1 s 50% Crew: 12.51 s 75% Crew: 10.92 s 100% Crew: 9.68 s Rammer: 8.71 s Vents: 9.47 s Both: 8.52 s Both and BiA: 8.33 s Both and Max Crew %: 7.99 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. Rate of Fire

| |}} | |}} 2030.6 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (220 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2030.6 50% Crew: 1639 75% Crew: 1876.6 100% Crew: 2118.6 100% Crew Vents: 2167 Rammer: 2354 Both: 2406.8 Both and BiA: 2459.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2567.4 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2250.6 50% Crew: 1859 75% Crew: 2096.6 100% Crew: 2338.6 100% Crew Rammer: 2574 Vents: 2387 Both: 2626.8 Both and BiA: 2679.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2787.4 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (220 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2030.6 50% Crew: 1639 75% Crew: 1876.6 100% Crew: 2118.6 100% Crew Vents: 2167 Rammer: 2354 Both: 2406.8 Both and BiA: 2459.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2567.4 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2250.6 50% Crew: 1859 75% Crew: 2096.6 100% Crew: 2338.6 100% Crew Rammer: 2574 Vents: 2387 Both: 2626.8 Both and BiA: 2679.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2787.4 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (270 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2492.1 50% Crew: 2011.5 75% Crew: 2303.1 100% Crew: 2600.1 100% Crew Vents: 2659.5 Rammer: 2889 Both: 2953.8 Both and BiA: 3018.6 Both and Max Crew %: 3150.9 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2762.1 50% Crew: 2281.5 75% Crew: 2573.1 100% Crew: 2870.1 100% Crew Rammer: 3159 Vents: 2929.5 Both: 3223.8 Both and BiA: 3288.6 Both and Max Crew %: 3420.9 See here, here, or here for more information. | |}} | |}} 1900.8 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (320 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1900.8 50% Crew: 1536 75% Crew: 1756.8 100% Crew: 1984 100% Crew Vents: 2028.8 Rammer: 2204.8 Both: 2252.8 Both and BiA: 2304 Both and Max Crew %: 2403.2 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2220.8 50% Crew: 1856 75% Crew: 2076.8 100% Crew: 2304 100% Crew Rammer: 2524.8 Vents: 2348.8 Both: 2572.8 Both and BiA: 2624 Both and Max Crew %: 2723.2 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (320 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1900.8 50% Crew: 1536 75% Crew: 1756.8 100% Crew: 1984 100% Crew Vents: 2028.8 Rammer: 2204.8 Both: 2252.8 Both and BiA: 2304 Both and Max Crew %: 2403.2 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2220.8 50% Crew: 1856 75% Crew: 2076.8 100% Crew: 2304 100% Crew Rammer: 2524.8 Vents: 2348.8 Both: 2572.8 Both and BiA: 2624 Both and Max Crew %: 2723.2 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (420 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2494.8 50% Crew: 2016 75% Crew: 2305.8 100% Crew: 2604 100% Crew Vents: 2662.8 Rammer: 2893.8 Both: 2956.8 Both and BiA: 3024 Both and Max Crew %: 3154.2 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2914.8 50% Crew: 2436 75% Crew: 2725.8 100% Crew: 3024 100% Crew Rammer: 3313.8 Vents: 3082.8 Both: 3376.8 Both and BiA: 3444 Both and Max Crew %: 3574.2 See here, here, or here for more information. Damage Per Minute

| |}} 0.38 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.471 m With 75% Crew: 0.411 m With 100% Crew: 0.364 m With BiA: 0.356 m With BiA and Vents: 0.349 m Maximum possible: 0.334 m For more details, see Crew | |}} 0.37 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.458 m With 75% Crew: 0.4 m With 100% Crew: 0.355 m With BiA: 0.347 m With BiA and Vents: 0.339 m Maximum possible: 0.325 m For more details, see Crew Accuracy

| |}} 2.3 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.849 s With 75% Crew: 2.488 s With 100% Crew: 2.205 s With GLD: 2.005 s With BiA: 2.157 s With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s With both and GLD: 1.918 s Maximum possible: 1.839 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment | |}} 2.3 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.849 s With 75% Crew: 2.488 s With 100% Crew: 2.205 s With GLD: 2.005 s With BiA: 2.157 s With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s With both and GLD: 1.918 s Maximum possible: 1.839 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment Aim time

3025 deg/s Turret Traverse

360° Gun Arc

-8°/+15°-8°/+15° Elevation Arc

9242 rounds Ammo Capacity

General

2015 % Chance of Fire

380 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 298.6 m With 75% Crew: 339.3 m With 100% Crew: 380 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m With Coated Optics: 418 m With Binocular Telescope: 475 m Maximum possible: 544 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment 390 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 306.4 m With 75% Crew: 348.2 m With 100% Crew: 390 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m With Coated Optics: 429 m With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m Maximum possible: 558.3 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment View Range

| |}} 415 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 335 m With 75% Crew: 383.7 m With 100% Crew: 432.8 m With 100% Signal Boost: 498 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 456.5 m Maximum possible: 623 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment | |}} 710 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 573.1 m With 75% Crew: 656.4 m With 100% Crew: 740.5 m With 100% Signal Boost: 852 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 781 m Maximum possible: 1065.9 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Signal Range

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Tiger (P)

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B

Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

• Stationary: 4.3%
• When Moving: 2.3%
• When Firing: 1.1%

Terrain Resistance

• On Hard Ground: 1.06
• On Medium Ground: 1.25
• On Soft Ground: 2.21

Dispersion Change Values

• Turret Contribution
• Rotation: 0.1
• Shot Recoil: 2.88
• Suspension Contribution
• Acceleration: 0.19
• Turning: 0.19

With 100% Crew

VIII

2435000

The VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A is a German tier 8 heavy tank.

A project for the further development of the VK 45.01 (P). The prototype was not manufactured as the 10-cylinder Porsche engine did not pass trials. The manufactured turrets were mounted on the first Tiger IIs.

Compared to the Tiger II, it has superior mobility and gun handling, but loses out on firepower. The most noticeable differences from its brother, the VK 45.02(P) Ausf. B, is that the Ausf. A's turret is mounted at the front instead of at the back, and that the Ausf. A is much nimbler, with weaker gun selection.

The VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A leads to the VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

Guns

Tier	Gun	Penetration (mm)	Damage (HP)	Rate of fire (rounds/minute)	Dispersion (m/100m)	Aiming time (s)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VII	8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56	145/194/44	220/220/270	9.23	0.38	2.3		2050	66000
VIII	8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71	203/237/44	240/240/295	7.79	0.34	2.9		2562	112180
VIII	10,5 cm Kw.K. L/52	200/244/60	320/320/420	5.94	0.37	2.3		3000	116490

Engines

Tier	Engine	Engine Power (hp)	Chance of Fire on Impact (%)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VI	2x Porsche Typ 100/1	600	20		670	29900
VII	2x Porsche Typ 100/3	670	20		720	39850
VIII	Porsche Deutz Typ 180/2	840	15		720	45300

Suspensions

Tier	Suspension	Load Limit (т)	Traverse Speed (gr/sec)	Rmin		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VII	VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A	54.18	25	0		7600	16550
VIII	VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A verstärkteketten	59.2	28	0		7600	33400

Radios

Tier	Radio	Signal Range (m)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VI	FuG 7	415		70	8160
IX	FuG 12	710		150	43200

Compatible Equipment

                     

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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

• Above average mobility for a heavy tank; able to keep pace with some mediums
• Ability to rotate in place and good terrain resistance
• Decent armour for its mobility, superior to Tiger II in terms of hull armour (stronger LFP, has spaced armor "collar" protect
• Top turret is very bouncy but relies more on slope than in thickness
• Good DPM and soft stats with 105mm

Cons:

• Weaker gun selection than most other tier 8 heavy tanks but still better than T32
• Low penetration on all guns and mediocre accuracy (by German standards) on 10,5 cm KwK 45 but still competitive
• Very weak hull sponsons bottom behind mud guards gets overmatched easily
• Weak ammo rack and modules
• Horrible stock grinding with no weight capacity to spare, bad terrain resistance and useless gun

Performance

The VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A plays between a heavy and medium. Unfortunately it inherites as many bad points of either tank class as good points.

• The gun is rather mediocre for a heavy, but still workable
• The mobility is not impressive for a medium, but good for a heavy
• The armor is decent, but has a few obvious weakspots

Use the mobility as advantage; do not expose your tank for long times, your armour is good, but not impenetrable. Luckily, the sheer speed of this tank allows decent wolf packing with mediums and assaults on flanks where only mediums will be met. While not the best against other heavies of the tier, the gun and armour of this tank is more than enough against mediums and lights. Sharing the same 150 mm well sloped upper plate with the Tiger II, which will reliably bounce shells below 230mm penetration when angled, and combined with its maneuverability will allow it to excel at hunting down mediums and light tanks, which if played well, will have a hard time circling this tank.

Always remember to angle your armour, as even the infamous IS-3 can bounce a well-angled VK. Under certain rare circumstances, the VK's armour can deflect shots from tier 10 tanks. Because of your weaker than average gun, you should prefer support role with other heavies. Front line is not the place for this machine. One exception of this rule: if you are top tier, you should consider playing a more active role.

The accuracy of the cannon will also allow the VK to stay at medium range, which will help improve the chance of bouncing enemy fire. However, the cannon has subpar penetration which will make it hard to penetrate some tier 8 and 9 heavy tanks. If possible conduct flanking actions. Keep in mind, though, that the size of the VK makes it a lucrative target for artillery. Don't stay still for too long, you have the mobility.

Early Research

• The 8,8cm KwK 43 L/71 gun, the 2x Porsche Typ 100/3 engine, and the FuG 12 radio all carry over from the Tiger P; however the upgraded suspension is needed in order to mount all three.
• After researching the upgraded suspension, either the 10,5cm KwK 45 L/52 gun or the upgraded turret may be mounted depending on whether you want the additional armour or the increase in damage first.
• Go from there.

Suggested Equipment

   

Gallery

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  VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A front left view

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  VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A front right view

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  VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A rear left view

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  VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A rear right view

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A front left view

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A front right view

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A back left view

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A back right view

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A, map Komarin

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  VK4502(P) Ausf. A, map Komarin

Historical Info

After the VK 45.01 (P) failed to win the contract, Dr. Porsche began looking at ways to improve the design for a future version. Based on the latest Allied tank designs, however, it was clear that simply increasing the armor on the VK 45.01 (P) would not be enough for the tank to remain competitive. It needed to have both more weight and more maneuverability. What initially began as a single vehicle, entitled "Typ 180" grew into a series of five different vehicles, requiring the development of two hull configurations (one with the turret in the front, the other with the turret in the rear), both an electric and a hydraulic drive system, and four different engines. The overall project came to be known as VK 45.02 (P) and the five configurations came to be:

• Typ 180A: Electric drive with Porsche Typ 101/3 gasoline engines.
• Typ 180B: Electric drive with Porsche Typ 101/4 gasoline engines.
• Typ 181A: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Typ 101/3 gasoline engines.
• Typ 181B: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Deutz Typ 180/1 diesel engines.
• Typ 181C: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Deutz Typ 180/2 diesel engines.

A new turret for the VK 4502 (P) had to be developed after it was determined that the 8.8cm Flak 41 could not be installed in the VK 4501 (P) turret. Records appear to indicate that the design was finalized by May 7, 1942, because Krupp reported difficulties shaping the turret's specially rounded front. The rounded front reduced the frontal target area, and thus it would not present the shot-trap that became apparent in the initial production design of the Henschel Tiger II. The rounded front of the turret would then line up with the sloped frontal armor (albeit only on the chassis with the front-mounted turret).

Initially an order for 200 complete VK 4502 (P) tanks was authorized in April of 1942, with the first four to be delivered in October. Unfortunately, Dr. Porsche's fascination with advanced (and unproven) engine design doomed the project when the 10-cylinder engines he designed for the tank failed during trials. Given that Dr. Porsche's previous failures used engines with the same drive train layout, the Wehrmacht had no confidence he would succeed in making it into a dependable engine. As a result, all contracts relating to the VK 4502 (P) were rescinded in November of 1942. Porsche nevertheless continued working on the design up to the summer of 1944. By then, the design had a hydraulic drive, a suspension, and a working 900 metric horsepower air-cooled diesel engine.

Ultimately, only the turret was used as an upgrade for the existing Henschel Tiger II design.

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Historical Gallery

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Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

The Henschel turret was only designed for the Tiger II. Its configuration on the VK 45.02 is fake.

• 8,8 cm Flak 41 L/74 (the Pz.Sfl. IVc's top gun), is missing. This gun was initially intended for the VK 45.02 before it was later switched to the KwK 43. The other gun configurations are fake.
• Original specifications indicates the turret's traverse speed is 15 degrees per second. In World of Tanks, however, the turret turns twice as fast.

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Sources and External Links

External Links

Historical Info - https://fingolfen.tripod.com/tiger/vk4502p.html

Germany

Heavy Tanks

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