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USSR | TD | Tier V
Battle Tier
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2,300  Gold Cost
500100 HP Hit Points
22.38/24.389.52/24.38 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader (Radio Operator)
Mobility
300300 hp Engine Power
50/14 km/h Speed Limit
4848 deg/s Traverse
13.431.51 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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109/2800/98
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160/160/280160/160/280 HP Damage
119/161/43119/161/43 mm Penetration



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13.33 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.5 s
50% Crew: 5.57 s
75% Crew: 4.87 s
100% Crew: 4.31 s
Rammer: 3.88 s
Vents: 4.22 s
Both: 3.79 s
Both and BiA: 3.71 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.56 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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13.33 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.5 s
50% Crew: 5.57 s
75% Crew: 4.87 s
100% Crew: 4.31 s
Rammer: 3.88 s
Vents: 4.22 s
Both: 3.79 s
Both and BiA: 3.71 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.56 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
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2132.8
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (280 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3732.4
50% Crew: 3012.8
75% Crew: 3449.6
100% Crew: 3892
100% Crew
Vents: 3978.8
Rammer: 4323.2
Both: 4421.2
Both and BiA: 4519.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4715.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 4012.4
50% Crew: 3292.8
75% Crew: 3729.6
100% Crew: 4172
100% Crew
Rammer: 4603.2
Vents: 4258.8
Both: 4701.2
Both and BiA: 4799.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4995.2

See here, here, or here for more information.






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2132.8
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (280 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3732.4
50% Crew: 3012.8
75% Crew: 3449.6
100% Crew: 3892
100% Crew
Vents: 3978.8
Rammer: 4323.2
Both: 4421.2
Both and BiA: 4519.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4715.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 4012.4
50% Crew: 3292.8
75% Crew: 3729.6
100% Crew: 4172
100% Crew
Rammer: 4603.2
Vents: 4258.8
Both: 4701.2
Both and BiA: 4799.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4995.2

See here, here, or here for more information.
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0.42 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.42 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 
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With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.3 s 
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With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
 Aim time
4444 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
20° Gun Arc
-5°/+25°-5°/+25° Elevation Arc
7070 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






330 m 
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With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






330 m 
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With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 View Range


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525 m 
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With 50% Crew: 412.5 m
With 75% Crew: 468.8 m
With 100% Crew: 525 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 630 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 577.5 m
Maximum possible: 755.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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525 m 
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With 50% Crew: 412.5 m
With 75% Crew: 468.8 m
With 100% Crew: 525 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 630 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 577.5 m
Maximum possible: 755.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 Signal Range
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SU-85I


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The SU-85I is a Soviet tier 5 premium tank destroyer.

Along with the creation of the SU-76I, there were attempts to mount a 85-mm gun on the captured German Pz.Kpfw. III tanks. The vehicle never entered mass production or saw service.

The SU-85I was first released during patch 0.9.0 for purchase in the Premium Shop and became available for purchase in the in game shop in patch 0.9.2

This tank was removed from sale in the gift shop and to buy for gold via the in game tech tree on the 8/6/15 Removal of Premium Tanks From Shop as part of the WG retirement plan.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VI 85 mm D-5S-85A 119/161/43 160/160/280 13.33 0.42 2.3 1215 81930

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

IV Maybach HL 120 TRM 300 20 920 10000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VI SU-85I 24.38 48 0 7000 8740

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VIII 9RM 525 30 24240

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 2 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Lend-Lease Oil Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Extra Combat Rations Removed Speed Governor Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Gun with good alpha and one of the best DPM of tier 5 TD's (2132.8 DPM)
  • Big and heavily armored gun mantlet
  • Second best HP for a tier 5 TD
  • Above average view range (20m more than StuG or AT 2 and 50m more than SU-85)
  • Good camouflage values, best camouflage of Tier V TD's when firing the gun


Cons:


  • Overall poor armor and very tall.
  • Sub-par gun arc and depression
  • Besides good plain mobility, it has bad power/wt ratio struggling to climb hills
  • Rather bad gun handling, long aiming time and bad accuracy


Performance

This tank has a decent gun for its tier, having one of the best DPM of all tier V TD's. However, it is not terribly accurate. It should be played like a support tank, although sniping is not impossible. The penetration of the gun with AP ammo is good enough to pen almost all tanks in tier 5 and 6, with exception of some heavys and TDs. Because the gun is not reliable enough to fire at weakspots from long distances, it is advised to carry some APCR to deal with heavy armored tanks.

While the armor is decent for its tier, it will be penetrated by almost anything the tank is matched against. It's important to make use of good camouflage to stay hidden, take shots at unaware enemies, then use mobility to move to a new location or behind cover. Remember that the tank has excellent maneuverability, and can therefore relocate very quickly and effectively.

Because of the weak armor and overall low survivability, Sixth Sense will help you to know when you are spotted. Since this is a premium vehicle, you can train any existing Soviet TD crew much more efficiently due to the modifiers.


Early Research

None required, this is a premium tank.


Suggested Equipment


Coated Optics Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

The SU-85I was a medium tank destroyer developed by Lew S. Trojanow on the Panzer III during the early war as a response to the new well armored German tanks. The project was halted due to a shortage of D-5S-85 guns and the uncertainty of whether or not more Panzer III hulls would be available. Work on the SU-85I was given up once it was decided there was no more need to convert captured German vehicles.



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Germany IIPz.Kpfw. II Ausf. D • IIMKA • IIPz.Kpfw. 35 R • IIPz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f) • IIIGroßtraktor - Krupp • III43 M. Toldi III • IIIPz.Kpfw. M 15 • IIIPz.Kpfw. II Ausf. J • IIIPz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) • IIIPz.Kpfw. T 15 • IVPz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f) • IVPz.Sfl. IC • VStuG IV • VPz.Kpfw. III Ausf. K • VTurán III prototípus • VPz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H Ankou • VPz.Kpfw. IV hydrostat. • VPz.Kpfw. V/IV • VPz.Kpfw. V/IV Alpha • VPz.Kpfw. T 25 • VIDicker Max • VITiger 131 • VIVK 28.01 mit 10,5 cm L/28 • VIPz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm • VIIAufklärungspanzer Panther • VIIE 25 • VIIKrupp-Steyr Waffenträger • VIIVK 45.03 • VIIPanther/M10 • VIIIPanther mit 8,8 cm L/71 • VIIIKanonenjagdpanzer 105 • VIIIRheinmetall Skorpion G • VIIIRheinmetall Skorpion • VIIIPanzer 58 • VIIISchwarzpanzer 58 • VIIIPanzer 58 Mutz • VIIIleKpz M 41 90 mm • VIIIleKpz M 41 90 mm GF • VIIIVK 168.01 (P) • VIIIVK 168.01 Mauerbrecher • VIIIHWK 30 • VIIIVK 75.01 (K) • VIIIM48A2 Räumpanzer • VIIIE 75 TS • VIIIKampfpanzer 07 RH • VIII8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger • VIIILöwe • IXT 55A • IXKampfpanzer 50 t • IXKunze Panzer • XVK 72.01 (K)
France IIAM 39 Gendron-Somua • IIAMR 35 • IIIFCM 36 Pak 40 • VM10 RBFM • V105 leFH18B2 • VIBretagne Panther • VIM4A1 FL 10 • VIIAMX 13 57 • VIIAMX 13 57 GF • VIIIPanhard EBR 75 (FL 10) • VIIIBat.-Châtillon Bourrasque • VIIIAltProto AMX 30 • VIIILorraine 40 t • VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars • VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé • VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 • VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté • VIIISomua SM • VIIIAMX Canon d'assaut 105 • VIIIELC EVEN 90 • VIIIFCM 50 t • IXChar Futur 4 • IXLorraine 50 t • XAMX 50 Foch (155)
USSR IIT-45 • IITetrarch • IIIBT-SV • IIILTP • IIIM3 Light • IIIBT-7 artillery • IIIT-29 • IIIT-116 • IIISU-76I • IIIT-127 • IVA-32 • IVT-28E with F-30 • IVT-34 with L-11 • IVValentine II • VChurchill III • VKV-220-2 • VKV-220-2 Beta Test • VMatilda IV • VT-34 shielded • VKV-1 shielded • VM4-85 • VSU-85I • VIKV-2 (R) • VIT-34-85M • VIObject 244 • VIT-34-85 Rudy • VILoza's M4-A2 Sherman • VIT-50-2 • VISU-100Y • VIIISU-122S • VIIKV-122 • VIIIS-2M • VIIIS-2 shielded • VIIIS-2 • VIISU-122-44 • VIIT-44-122 • VIIIIS-6 • VIIIIS-6 B • VIIIKV-5 • VIIIISU-130 • VIIIT-54 first prototype • VIIIIS-5 (Object 730) • VIIIIS-3A • VIIIIS-3A Peregrine • VIIIKV-4 KTTS • VIIIKirovets-1 • VIIIT-44-100 Igrovoy • VIIIKV-4 Kreslavskiy • VIIIObject 252U Defender • VIIIObject 252U • VIIIT-103 • VIIISTG • VIIISTG Guard • VIIILT-432 • VIIISU-130PM • VIIIObject 703 Version II • VIIIISU-152K • VIIIObject 274a • IXObject 777 Version II • IXK-91-PT • XObject 907 • XObject 260 • XT-22 medium • XObject 268 Version V • XObject 279 early • XObject 780
China VIType 64 • VIIType 62 • VIIIType 59 • VIIIWZ-111 • VIIIWZ-111 Alpine Tiger • VIIIT-34-3 • VIII112 • VIII59-Patton • VIIIWZ-120-1G FT • VIIIM41D • VIII122 TM • VIIIType 59 G • IXWZ-120G FT • IXWZ-114 • X113 Beijing Opera • X121B • XWZ-111 Qilin • X114 SP2
Japan IIType 97 Te-Ke • VType 3 Chi-Nu Kai • VIHeavy Tank No. VI • VIIISTA-2
Czechoslovakia VIŠkoda T 40 • VIIŠkoda T 45 • VIIIŠkoda T 27 • VIIIŠkoda T 56 • VIIIShPTK-TVP 100
Sweden IIL-60 • IIILago M38 • VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 • VIIIStrv S1 • VIIIStrv 81 • VIIIPrimo Victoria • VIIIEMIL 1951 • VIIILansen C • VIIIBofors Tornvagn • IXStrv K
Italy VIIIProgetto M35 mod. 46 • VIIIBisonte C45 • VIIISMV CC-64 Vipera • XCarro da Combattimento 45 t
Poland IITKS z n.k.m. 20 mm • VIPudel • VIT-34-85 Rudy • VIII50TP prototyp • VIIICS-52 LIS
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