AMX Chasseur de chars
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? | | | + | |The CDC is a rather interesting tank. While it was originally intended as a tank destroyer, in WoT it's classed as a medium tank. The hard stats will lead you to believe that this is essentially a fat light tank - 35hp/t being one of the best in the game. | |
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+ | However, due to hidden stats, namely ground resistance, the tank is much slower than you'd think. Adding to the problems is bad gun handling - all in all it results in an inadequate package of a quick-ish medium tank with an average gun, bad gun handling and absolutely no armor. In case that's not enough, the camo values are between a Pershing and a Panther. That's 'mediocre' to 'pretty darn bad', in other words. | |||
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+ | While the CDC was considered one of the best premium tanks at its introduction, it's not mostly a relic of the past. Penetration, while good, is not enough for the matches this thing will see, nor is it good enough to compensate for lackluster gun handling. | |||
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+ | Good players might be able to exploit the arguably above average mobility of the tank, but it remains a tank with extremely low survivability. Big size, low camo, slow aiming, most things are against you even when employing what would appear to be ideal tactics for a fast tank destroyer. That's not even counting that this playstyle is impossible on most of the in-game maps. | |||
+ | Adding to the problem is that most players will load HE when you come around. This means that trading shots or dueling tanks is extremely risky at best. Artillery will feast on you, and with a direct hit you won't even remember that there was an arty rebalance trying to counter the 1000-damage penetrating hits. | |||
|Gallery= | |Gallery= | |||
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+ | File:AMX Chasseur de chars scr 2.jpg | |||
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+ | File:AMX Chasseur de chars screen1.jpg | |||
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+ | File:AMX Chasseur de chars screen3.jpg | |||
+ | File:AMX Chasseur de chars scr 1.jpg | |||
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|InTheGame_pros= | |InTheGame_pros= | |||
? | * | + | * Above-average penetration for T8. | |
? | * | + | * Fast hillclimber. | |
? | * | + | * Great gun depression at 10 degrees; effective on hilly terrain | |
? | *High ammunition count | + | * High ammunition count | |
? | *Good credit-making ability for its price | + | * Good credit-making ability for its price | |
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|InTheGame_cons= | |InTheGame_cons= | |||
? | * | + | * Non-existent armour | |
? | * | + | * Low top speed for a so-called fast medium tank. | |
? | * | + | * Bad camouflage values (for a pure support tank) | |
? | + | * Huge size (especially length) for a medium; even bigger than some heavies in-game | ||
? | * | + | * Sluggish due to hidden stats, effectively negating most of the engine power advantage. | |
? | * | + | * Frequent ammo rack damage. | |
? | + | * No preferential matchmaking | ||
? | *No preferential matchmaking | + | ||
|InTheGame_performance= | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
? | + | As it effectively has no armor at all, the AMX CDC demands a careful playstyle. Avoiding damage entirely through concealment and clever positioning and relocating is essential and brawls are to be avoided at all costs. Consider the CDC a lightly armed, turreted tank destroyer more than a medium tank. | ||
|InTheGame_research= | |InTheGame_research= | |||
+ | None required, a premium tank comes elited. | |||
|InTheGame_equipment= | |InTheGame_equipment= | |||
? | + | Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer, Coated Optics, Improved Ventilation. | ||
|InTheGame_Equipment_Builds= | |InTheGame_Equipment_Builds= | |||
? | |External_Reviews= | + | |External_Reviews= | |
+ | {{VideoYT|nBWHoh93Zm0}} | |||
|History= | |History= | |||
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+ | The AMX Chasseur de Chars (literally "Hunter of Tanks/Tank Hunter") was a lightly armored tank destroyer, designed in 1946 upon the chassis of the AMX M4 project. The project was cancelled in the blueprint stage with no prototypes built. | |||
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+ | '''Characteristics''': | |||
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+ | * Length: 7.38 m | |||
+ | * Width: 3.25 m | |||
+ | * Height: 2.70 m | |||
+ | * Weight in combat order: 34 t | |||
+ | * Armor: front: 30 mm, other parts 20 mm | |||
+ | * Suspension: Torsion bars | |||
+ | * Engine: Maybach HL 295 12 cylinders 1200 hp | |||
+ | * Transmission: AK5-250 5-speed | |||
+ | * Armament: 1 90 mm Schneider gun and coaxial machine gun, 1 cash machine gun. | |||
+ | * Ammunition: 90 shells, 18 magazines | |||
+ | * Fuel: 1,700 liters of gasoline in 4 tanks at the rear. | |||
+ | * Run time: 6 hours | |||
+ | * Crew: 4 men, tank commander, gunner, loader, driver | |||
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|HistoricalGallery= | |HistoricalGallery= | |||
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+ | File:AMX_CDC_sketch.jpg{{!}}Contemporary sketch of the AMX CDC | |||
+ | File:AMX_CDC_side_blueprint.jpg{{!}}AMX CDC blueprint from the side | |||
+ | File:AMX_CDC_top_blueprint.jpg{{!}}AMX CDC blueprint from the top | |||
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+ | |HistAcc= | |||
+ | - It was originally designed as a tank destroyer, not a medium tank. The name translates to English as "AMX Tank Destroyer" | |||
|Ref_references= | |Ref_references= | |||
|Ref_sources= | |Ref_sources= | |||
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+ | * Archives DGA Chatellerault | |||
|Ref_links= | |Ref_links= | |||
+ | * https://www.chars-francais.net/2015/index.php/liste-chronologique/de-1945-a-1990?task=view&id=729 | |||
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Revision as of 07:27, 10 February 2020
AMX Chasseur de chars
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[Client Values; Actual values in
6,700 Cost |
1400280 HP Hit Points |
34/37.816.86/37.8 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
12001200 hp Engine Power |
57/23 km/h Speed Limit |
4040 deg/s Traverse |
35.2971.17 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
30/20/2030/20/20 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
255/4800/255
255/4800/255 Shell Cost |
240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage |
212/259/45212/259/45 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
8.22 r/m Standard Gun ▲
8.22 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
1972.8 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
1972.8 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.34 m With 50% Crew: 0.421 m ▲
0.34 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.421 m |
s 1.8 s 1.8 Aim time |
3838 deg/s Turret Traverse |
360° Gun Arc |
-10°/+20°-10°/+20° Elevation Arc |
9090 rounds Ammo Capacity |
1515 % Chance of Fire |
m 390 m 390 View Range |
m 750 m 750 Signal Range |
VIII
6700
The AMX Chasseur de chars is a French tier 8 premium medium tank.
In 1946, the AMX company presented this design for a new vehicle. The powerful engine and light weight would have made the vehicle highly mobile, and the 90-mm gun was equipped with a mechanical ammunition system for a high rate of fire. However, the large dimensions of the vehicle, its thin armor, high cost, and the complexity of the design made it unappealing, and the project never advanced to a prototype.
The CDC is a rather interesting tank. While it was originally intended as a tank destroyer, in WoT it's classed as a medium tank. The hard stats will lead you to believe that this is essentially a fat light tank - 35hp/t being one of the best in the game.
However, due to hidden stats, namely ground resistance, the tank is much slower than you'd think. Adding to the problems is bad gun handling - all in all it results in an inadequate package of a quick-ish medium tank with an average gun, bad gun handling and absolutely no armor. In case that's not enough, the camo values are between a Pershing and a Panther. That's 'mediocre' to 'pretty darn bad', in other words.
While the CDC was considered one of the best premium tanks at its introduction, it's not mostly a relic of the past. Penetration, while good, is not enough for the matches this thing will see, nor is it good enough to compensate for lackluster gun handling.
Good players might be able to exploit the arguably above average mobility of the tank, but it remains a tank with extremely low survivability. Big size, low camo, slow aiming, most things are against you even when employing what would appear to be ideal tactics for a fast tank destroyer. That's not even counting that this playstyle is impossible on most of the in-game maps. Adding to the problem is that most players will load HE when you come around. This means that trading shots or dueling tanks is extremely risky at best. Artillery will feast on you, and with a direct hit you won't even remember that there was an arty rebalance trying to counter the 1000-damage penetrating hits.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | 90 mm AC DCA 45 | 212/259/45 | 240/240/320 | 8.22 | 0.34 | 1.8 | 2750 | 121250 |
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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X | Maybach HL 295 F | 1200 | 15 | 750 | 123000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | AMX Chasseur de chars | 37.8 | 40 | 0 | 7000 | 30000 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Above-average penetration for T8.
- Fast hillclimber.
- Great gun depression at 10 degrees; effective on hilly terrain
- High ammunition count
- Good credit-making ability for its price
Cons:
- Non-existent armour
- Low top speed for a so-called fast medium tank.
- Bad camouflage values (for a pure support tank)
- Huge size (especially length) for a medium; even bigger than some heavies in-game
- Sluggish due to hidden stats, effectively negating most of the engine power advantage.
Performance
As it effectively has no armor at all, the AMX CDC demands a careful playstyle. Avoiding damage entirely through concealment and clever positioning and relocating is essential and brawls are to be avoided at all costs. Consider the CDC a lightly armed, turreted tank destroyer more than a medium tank.
Early Research
None required, a premium tank comes elited.
Suggested Equipment
External Reviews and Opinions
Gallery
Historical Info
Characteristics:
- Length: 7.38 m
- Width: 3.25 m
- Height: 2.70 m
- Weight in combat order: 34 t
- Armor: front: 30 mm, other parts 20 mm
- Suspension: Torsion bars
- Engine: Maybach HL 295 12 cylinders 1200 hp
- Transmission: AK5-250 5-speed
- Armament: 1 90 mm Schneider gun and coaxial machine gun, 1 cash machine gun.
- Ammunition: 90 shells, 18 magazines
- Fuel: 1,700 liters of gasoline in 4 tanks at the rear.
- Run time: 6 hours
- Crew: 4 men, tank commander, gunner, loader, driver
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
- It was originally designed as a tank destroyer, not a medium tank. The name translates to English as "AMX Tank Destroyer"