8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger
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? | |This Tank Destroyer is a formidable opponent on the battlefield as its main gun has excellent accuracy and an extremely high rate of fire for this tier (5.5 second reload). At long range situations, with the vulnerable glacis plate hidden and the robust superstructure exposed, this Tank Destroyer can become a nightmare for equal tiers to penetrate. Its Tier IX Cousin the [[Tank:G44 JagdTiger|Jagdtiger]] has better mobility and firepower but this tank has a formidable rate of fire. Unfortunately you share the Jagdtiger's weaknesses too which is the vulnerable glacis plate and very weak side and rear | + | |This Tank Destroyer is a formidable opponent on the battlefield as its main gun has excellent accuracy and an extremely high rate of fire for this tier (5.5 second reload). At long range situations, with the vulnerable glacis plate hidden and the robust superstructure exposed, this Tank Destroyer can become a nightmare for equal tiers to penetrate. Its Tier IX Cousin the [[Tank:G44 JagdTiger|Jagdtiger]] has better mobility and firepower but this tank has a formidable rate of fire. Unfortunately you share the Jagdtiger's weaknesses too which is the vulnerable glacis plate and very weak side and rear armour. Keep at long range, avoid close combat, aim for the weakspots and you can be the deciding factor in the game. | |
The Jagdtiger 88 was removed from the German Tech tree and in game store in patch 9.10. | The Jagdtiger 88 was removed from the German Tech tree and in game store in patch 9.10. | |||
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* Poor Alpha damage - can not compete with "peek-a-boo" tactics, and most halfway decent players won't just sit and let you fire at them repetitively | * Poor Alpha damage - can not compete with "peek-a-boo" tactics, and most halfway decent players won't just sit and let you fire at them repetitively | |||
* Lower glacis plate is a known weakspot, though it is thicker than Tiger II's and Jagdtiger's | * Lower glacis plate is a known weakspot, though it is thicker than Tiger II's and Jagdtiger's | |||
? | * Side | + | * Side armour is weak. | |
* Large, thin superstructure from the sides combined with slow speed make this tank very easy for artillery to hit | * Large, thin superstructure from the sides combined with slow speed make this tank very easy for artillery to hit | |||
* Specialist flank defender, requires large amounts of team support | * Specialist flank defender, requires large amounts of team support | |||
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? | Having a very armoured superstructure, an accurate gun with high | + | Having a very armoured superstructure, an accurate gun with high rate of fire (RoF) and decent manoeuvrability, the Jagdtiger 88 is a deadly tank that can easily burn down many of the tanks with extreme damage per minute (DPM). Most shots from tanks you face will harmlessly bounce off your upper front plate and superstructure, but your sides are very weak and your turning ability is limited. With all these in mind, tactics with this tank should change over the course of the match. | |
? | When the match begins, you should use your accurate gun to snipe the enemy, helping your flank thin out the enemies. Considering that most tanks of this tier have low rates of fire, your high ROF may provide the additional firepower necessary for your allied tanks to overwhelm the opposition. Be careful of areas with multiple shooting angles - your front may face an enemy, but your sides may face another flank! Alternatively one can engage in a frontal | + | When the match begins, you should use your accurate gun to snipe the enemy, helping your flank thin out the enemies. Considering that most tanks of this tier have low rates of fire, your high ROF may provide the additional firepower necessary for your allied tanks to overwhelm the opposition. Be careful of areas with multiple shooting angles - your front may face an enemy, but your sides may face another flank! Alternatively one can engage in a frontal shoot-out, but take into account the terrain for locations where you can hide your (lower) hull and where the enemy has little to no chance of flanking you. The Jagdtiger 88 is unable to react to sudden changes on the battlefield due to lack of a turret, underwhelming HP/t ratio and slow hull-traverse speed. | |
If your team is gaining the upper hand and the enemies' numbers are thinning out, you can start pushing your flank with support. Based on previous observations of enemy positions, angle your tank to ensure that all potential fire will hit your front or bounce off your sides. Attack enemy tanks to draw shots, which will expose them to your allies, allowing you and your team to swiftly dispose of them. | If your team is gaining the upper hand and the enemies' numbers are thinning out, you can start pushing your flank with support. Based on previous observations of enemy positions, angle your tank to ensure that all potential fire will hit your front or bounce off your sides. Attack enemy tanks to draw shots, which will expose them to your allies, allowing you and your team to swiftly dispose of them. | |||
? | If your flank is collapsing, pull back and use your high ROF to hold enemies off. Be sure to hide your lower front plate as it is very weak. Hopefully, more tanks will come to reinforce your flank, and your opponents will be weak enough to be easy pickings for your team. If such a flank is a short drive away, do not be afraid to go back and hold it - such occasions are where this tank shines, and a good | + | If your flank is collapsing, pull back and use your high ROF to hold enemies off. Be sure to hide your lower front plate as it is very weak. Hopefully, more tanks will come to reinforce your flank, and your opponents will be weak enough to be easy pickings for your team. If such a flank is a short drive away, do not be afraid to go back and hold it - such occasions are where this tank shines, and a good defence can net 3000+ damage, several destroyed enemy top-dogs and a secured flank. | |
Weakspot shooting is mandatory in this tank, as 203mm may not cut it on tier IX and some tier VIII opponents. Drivers of this tanks should get familiar with where to shoot on most opponents for damage. The accuracy and rate of fire will handle the rest. Reliably detracking enemies is also essential, as the gun fires faster than the speed at which a 100% crew with 100% repair can repair the track for most tanks. Not only can this save you from flankers, but it can also earn you "damage on detrack" bonuses on tanks that you cannot reliably penetrate from your side. | Weakspot shooting is mandatory in this tank, as 203mm may not cut it on tier IX and some tier VIII opponents. Drivers of this tanks should get familiar with where to shoot on most opponents for damage. The accuracy and rate of fire will handle the rest. Reliably detracking enemies is also essential, as the gun fires faster than the speed at which a 100% crew with 100% repair can repair the track for most tanks. Not only can this save you from flankers, but it can also earn you "damage on detrack" bonuses on tanks that you cannot reliably penetrate from your side. | |||
? | At all times, be wary of | + | At all times, be wary of self-propelled guns (SPG). Tier 7 and above SPGs can end your tank in a single hit, especially if you expose your flat side armor to them. Your large size and slow speed make you an arty magnet, and with the potential for top tier SPGs in 8.6, this is an even worse issue. In addition, the lower glacis is very weak and should be hidden - hull-down tactics or a large rock may suffice to protect it. Tier 9 tanks, along with the [[T34]] and tier 8 tank destroyers, can easily crack your upper front plate and even your superstructure. If you find yourself in a battle tier 9 match, switch to a purely supportive role. | |
All in all, this tank has one of the best credit earning potentials of the tier 8 premiums. Use your gun to chip away at enemies, and you will earn a lot from driving this tank. | All in all, this tank has one of the best credit earning potentials of the tier 8 premiums. Use your gun to chip away at enemies, and you will earn a lot from driving this tank. | |||
? | With its HD transformation in 9.12 both Jagdtiger versions received improvements to their | + | With its HD transformation in 9.12 both Jagdtiger versions received improvements to their armour. Most importantly frontally the MG weakspot was removed, the angle of the lower plate was improved and a small strip of 150mm of armour also exceeds to the upper part of the lower front plate. The Jagdtiger 88 can tank more efficiently with its frontal plates due to two reasons: | |
# It is one tier lower + SMM, so you will face opponents with less penetration on a regular basis | # It is one tier lower + SMM, so you will face opponents with less penetration on a regular basis | |||
# The lower plate has a nominal armor value of 120mm instead of 100mm on the regular Jagdtiger | # The lower plate has a nominal armor value of 120mm instead of 100mm on the regular Jagdtiger | |||
? | As a point of reference, you can safely bounce up up to 175mm of penetration plus most penetration | + | As a point of reference, you can safely bounce up up to 175mm of penetration plus most penetration high-rolls even if your lower plate is visible. When you know that the opponent you are facing uses a weapon with such weak penetration you can deliberately expose yourself to the fullest and make a move on them assuming the conditions are right (no risk of shots being fired into your side, arty, etc). Of course there is always the option of the enemy using premium ammunition so it will remain a gamble. However if your opponent has AP loaded, he has no other choice but to use it or reload to premium ammunition. You can use that gap to facehug the enemy (especially when he is using a high calibre weapon with long reload such as 122mm D-25T on the IS) and deny him further shots into your lower plate. | |
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? | In November of 1944, Krupp proposed to arm Jagdtigers with longer 128mm Pak L/66 gun. The superstructure was be extended over the engine | + | In November of 1944, Krupp proposed to arm Jagdtigers with longer 128mm Pak L/66 gun. The superstructure was be extended over the engine deck to allow for the recoil of the gun. The project was never realized.It was also intended to arm Jagdtiger with 88mm KwK 43 L/71 gun instead of 128mm Pak 44 L/55 gun.In April of 1945, four were armed with 88mm Pak 43 L/71 gun and were designated as Panzerjäger Tiger mit 88mm Pak 43/3 (Sf)Sd.Kfz.185, while those armed with 128mm Pak 44 L/55 were designated Sd.Kfz.186. | |
|HistoricalGallery= | |HistoricalGallery= |
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8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger
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[Client Values; Actual values in
9,000 Cost |
1500300 HP Hit Points |
69.68/74.8522.18/74.85 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Radio Operator
- Driver
- Gunner
- Loader
- Loader
700700 hp Engine Power |
38/16 km/h Speed Limit |
3232 deg/s Traverse |
10.0531.56 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
252/4400/252
252/4400/252 Shell Cost |
240/240/295240/240/295 HP Damage |
212/237/44212/237/44 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
11.76 r/m Standard Gun ▲
11.76 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
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Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
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2822.4 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
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2822.4 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.31 m With 50% Crew: 0.384 m ▲
0.31 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.384 m |
s 1.8 s 1.8 Aim time |
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
20° Gun Arc |
-7°/+15°-7°/+15° Elevation Arc |
6868 rounds Ammo Capacity |
2020 % Chance of Fire |
m 390 m 390 View Range |
m 710 m 710 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 10.9%
- When Moving: 6.6%
- When Firing: 2.6%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 0.96
- On Medium Ground: 1.44
- On Soft Ground: 2.3
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.08
- Shot Recoil: 2.88
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.17
- Turning: 0.17
With 100% Crew
VIII
9000
The 8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger is a German tier 8 premium tank destroyer.
In 1945, the production order for the Jagdtiger was increased, and the supply of compatible guns became insufficient. As a result, approximately 20 vehicles were equipped with the 8,8 cm PaK 43 L/71 gun.
This Tank Destroyer is a formidable opponent on the battlefield as its main gun has excellent accuracy and an extremely high rate of fire for this tier (5.5 second reload). At long range situations, with the vulnerable glacis plate hidden and the robust superstructure exposed, this Tank Destroyer can become a nightmare for equal tiers to penetrate. Its Tier IX Cousin the Jagdtiger has better mobility and firepower but this tank has a formidable rate of fire. Unfortunately you share the Jagdtiger's weaknesses too which is the vulnerable glacis plate and very weak side and rear armour. Keep at long range, avoid close combat, aim for the weakspots and you can be the deciding factor in the game.
The Jagdtiger 88 was removed from the German Tech tree and in game store in patch 9.10.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | 8,8 cm Pak 43 L/71A | 212/237/44 | 240/240/295 | 11.76 | 0.31 | 1.8 | 2562 | 112180 |
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VII | Maybach HL 230 P30 | 700 | 20 | 1200 | 36000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | Jagdtiger 8,8 | 74.85 | 32 | 0 | 18000 | 28100 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Very strong superstructure and good gun depression lets it hull down well
- Extremely accurate and quick-aiming gun
- Outstanding reload time and consequently DPM (2666 dpm base)
- Excellent view range
- Preferential matchmaking (tier 9 max, no tier 10 battles)
Cons:
- Very slow speed and traverse
- If "tracked" while going full speed, the momentum of such weight will turn the tank 90°, potentially exposing its thin sides.
- Poor Alpha damage - can not compete with "peek-a-boo" tactics, and most halfway decent players won't just sit and let you fir
- Lower glacis plate is a known weakspot, though it is thicker than Tiger II's and Jagdtiger's
- Side armour is weak.
Performance
Having a very armoured superstructure, an accurate gun with high rate of fire (RoF) and decent manoeuvrability, the Jagdtiger 88 is a deadly tank that can easily burn down many of the tanks with extreme damage per minute (DPM). Most shots from tanks you face will harmlessly bounce off your upper front plate and superstructure, but your sides are very weak and your turning ability is limited. With all these in mind, tactics with this tank should change over the course of the match.
When the match begins, you should use your accurate gun to snipe the enemy, helping your flank thin out the enemies. Considering that most tanks of this tier have low rates of fire, your high ROF may provide the additional firepower necessary for your allied tanks to overwhelm the opposition. Be careful of areas with multiple shooting angles - your front may face an enemy, but your sides may face another flank! Alternatively one can engage in a frontal shoot-out, but take into account the terrain for locations where you can hide your (lower) hull and where the enemy has little to no chance of flanking you. The Jagdtiger 88 is unable to react to sudden changes on the battlefield due to lack of a turret, underwhelming HP/t ratio and slow hull-traverse speed.
If your team is gaining the upper hand and the enemies' numbers are thinning out, you can start pushing your flank with support. Based on previous observations of enemy positions, angle your tank to ensure that all potential fire will hit your front or bounce off your sides. Attack enemy tanks to draw shots, which will expose them to your allies, allowing you and your team to swiftly dispose of them.
If your flank is collapsing, pull back and use your high ROF to hold enemies off. Be sure to hide your lower front plate as it is very weak. Hopefully, more tanks will come to reinforce your flank, and your opponents will be weak enough to be easy pickings for your team. If such a flank is a short drive away, do not be afraid to go back and hold it - such occasions are where this tank shines, and a good defence can net 3000+ damage, several destroyed enemy top-dogs and a secured flank.
Weakspot shooting is mandatory in this tank, as 203mm may not cut it on tier IX and some tier VIII opponents. Drivers of this tanks should get familiar with where to shoot on most opponents for damage. The accuracy and rate of fire will handle the rest. Reliably detracking enemies is also essential, as the gun fires faster than the speed at which a 100% crew with 100% repair can repair the track for most tanks. Not only can this save you from flankers, but it can also earn you "damage on detrack" bonuses on tanks that you cannot reliably penetrate from your side.
At all times, be wary of self-propelled guns (SPG). Tier 7 and above SPGs can end your tank in a single hit, especially if you expose your flat side armor to them. Your large size and slow speed make you an arty magnet, and with the potential for top tier SPGs in 8.6, this is an even worse issue. In addition, the lower glacis is very weak and should be hidden - hull-down tactics or a large rock may suffice to protect it. Tier 9 tanks, along with the T34 and tier 8 tank destroyers, can easily crack your upper front plate and even your superstructure. If you find yourself in a battle tier 9 match, switch to a purely supportive role.
All in all, this tank has one of the best credit earning potentials of the tier 8 premiums. Use your gun to chip away at enemies, and you will earn a lot from driving this tank.
With its HD transformation in 9.12 both Jagdtiger versions received improvements to their armour. Most importantly frontally the MG weakspot was removed, the angle of the lower plate was improved and a small strip of 150mm of armour also exceeds to the upper part of the lower front plate. The Jagdtiger 88 can tank more efficiently with its frontal plates due to two reasons:
- It is one tier lower + SMM, so you will face opponents with less penetration on a regular basis
- The lower plate has a nominal armor value of 120mm instead of 100mm on the regular Jagdtiger
As a point of reference, you can safely bounce up up to 175mm of penetration plus most penetration high-rolls even if your lower plate is visible. When you know that the opponent you are facing uses a weapon with such weak penetration you can deliberately expose yourself to the fullest and make a move on them assuming the conditions are right (no risk of shots being fired into your side, arty, etc). Of course there is always the option of the enemy using premium ammunition so it will remain a gamble. However if your opponent has AP loaded, he has no other choice but to use it or reload to premium ammunition. You can use that gap to facehug the enemy (especially when he is using a high calibre weapon with long reload such as 122mm D-25T on the IS) and deny him further shots into your lower plate.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
The Jagdtiger's actual top speed is 34 km/h. However, despite mounting a lighter gun than the tier IX Jagdtiger's 12,8 cm Pak L/66, its top speed is only 28 km/h.