Friedrich der Große
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? | + | While the ''Bismarck'' class was a powerful class of Battleships, the most powerful that would ever be designed by the German Navy and the largest class of Battleships to be built of any European Nations, several deficiencies in the design led to the demands of an even stronger Battleship. The criticism mostly aimed at the caliber of the main battery, the depth of the main armor belt, the horizontal protection and the propulsion. | ||
? | + | To meet these concerns the new ship would require to be larger than the ''Bismarck'' class, and the displacement was designed to be around 62,500 tons when fully loaded. The name of the Project was ''H-39''. A total crew complement of 2,600 was planned. | ||
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+ | The main armament of ''H-39'' was very similar to ''Bismarck'' in layout and caliber. The main guns were improved to 406mm L/52 guns, which would fire a 1,030kg heavy projectile at ranges up to 36.8km. The designed reload of these guns was around 30 seconds, very similar to that of other guns of the same caliber. Located in four twin turrets, a superfiring pair fore and one aft, ''H-39'' followed the design of ''Bismarck''. | |||
+ | The Secondaries were almost copied from the preceding class. Twelve 150mm L/50 guns in six twin turrets, three placed on each side of the ship, would be able to engage targets at ranges up to 23km firing around eight rounds per minute and gun. The 16 105mm Anti-Aircraft guns were also able to engage surface targets at ranges up to 17km with a rate of fire around 18 rounds per minute and gun. | |||
+ | Interesting about ''H-39'' is that she was the first German Battleship since the end of World War 1 to carry underwater Torpedo Tubes. Six Tubes in total, mounted in two groups, were placed at the sides of the ship a bit forward of Turret “Anton”. | |||
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+ | Initial Anti-Aircraft-Armament would have consisted of 16 105mm mounted in twin turrets. Unlike all the 105mm mountings before, these were fully enclosed to protect the crew against splinters and weather, and the barrels were more spaced to allow the loaders more movement and reduced dispersion. | |||
+ | The medium range AA was made up of the 37mm ''Flakzwilling 30'', mounted in eight twin mounts. These were the same guns as found on the ''Scharnhorst'' and ''Bismarck'' class, which would feature good ballistics at the prize of a very low Rate of Fire. | |||
+ | The last line of defense was planned to be a total of six of the famous ''Flakvierling 38'', 20mm guns mounted in quadruple mounts. | |||
+ | As ''H-39'' was never completed, no improvements in regards to the armament could be done. | |||
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+ | The protective scheme was fairly similar to ''Bismarck'', but priorities were shifted a bit. | |||
+ | In order to meet the insufficient belt depth of ''Bismarck's'' main armor belt (a shell from ''Prince of Wales'' landed short and penetrated ''Bismarck's'' hull, causing critical damage), the belt was extended deeper below the waterline. This however came with an overall reduction in the thickness, and the belt was only planned to be 300mm thick. Above the main belt the upper belt tapered down to 180mm for a bit, and then eventually to 150mm before reaching the upper deck.To compensate the lower thickness of the belt, the iconic turtleback was thickened. At the magazines it was 150mm strong, while at the machinery it was still 120mm. Behind it was a Torpedo bulkhead which would provide further protection against splinters. The horizontal protection was significantly improved. With a weather deck ranging between 50 and 80mm, and a main armor deck with 120mm over the magazines and 100mm over the machinery, they surpassed ''Tirpitz'' horizontal protection. | |||
+ | As a means to protect the bow and stern section of the ship the armor belt extended towards the bow with 60mm, also covering the fuel cells which were hit and damaged on ''Bismarck''. Towards the rear it was 110mm thick, and would extend until the steering gears. | |||
+ | The barbettes for the main battery were protected by 360mm strong armor, and the turrets themselves had a 385mm face plating, 240mm thick sides and a 130mm roof. The armored conning tower had 385mm strong sides and a 240mm roof. | |||
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+ | The machinery was a complete change from almost all preceding German Capital ships. Whereas the ''Scharnhorst'' and ''Bismarck'' class carried a conventional steam propulsion, ''H-39'' was designed to carry a Diesel propulsion similar to the ''Deutschland'' class. In total twelve MAN Diesel engines would generate 165,000 shp on three shafts, which would drive the ship to 30kn. The calculated cruising range would exceed 19,000 nautical miles | |||
+ | The reasoning for the usage of Diesel engines was due to multiple factors. The previous steam engines on capital ships usually required a highly qualified crew and would still demand a lot of maintenance, while being prone to breakdowns especially when one of the former requirements was not 100% met. On top of that the cruising range left a lot to be desired. On the other hand Diesel engines were a proven concept, which would not require as much attention and be more reliable, while offering long cruising ranges. Also, as the war would rage on, Diesel would be a lot easier to obtain than regular fuel oil. The only downside was that on a power per weight ratio the Diesel engines were relatively heavy. | |||
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+ | Aircraft facilities would allow ''H-39'' to carry up to four planes, but the location of the catapult was very unusual. Instead of having placed on the stern of the ship, or in the superstructure, it was located just behind turret “Dora”. The intention was that it would keep the middle section of the ship free for the second funnel and other equipment, while not blocking potential firing arcs towards the rear of the ship (and German ships would never in history carry catapults on the stern of the ship). | |||
====Service==== | ====Service==== |
Revision as of 14:33, 16 October 2018
406 mm/52 SK C/34 on a Drh LC/34 mount4 х 2 pcs. |
Rate of Fire2.31 shots/min. |
Reload Time26 sec. |
Rotation Speed5.5 deg./sec. |
180 Degree Turn Time32.73 sec. |
Firing Range18.47 km. |
Maximum Dispersion263 m. |
HE Shell406 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz. |
Maximum HE Shell Damage4,800 |
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell38 % |
Initial HE Shell Velocity810 m./s. |
HE Shell Weight1030 kg. |
AP Shell406 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/4.4 |
Maximum AP Shell Damage12,700 |
Initial AP Shell Velocity810 m./s. |
AP Shell Weight1030 kg. |
105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/38 mount8 х 2 pcs. |
Firing Range7.95 km. |
Rate of Fire17.91 shots/min. |
Reload Time3.35 sec. |
HE Shell105 mm Spr.Gr. Kz. |
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,200 |
Initial HE Shell Velocity900 m./s. |
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell5 % |
150 mm/55 SK C/28 on a Dop. L. C/34 mount4 х 2 pcs. |
Firing Range7.95 km. |
Rate of Fire8 shots/min. |
Reload Time7.5 sec. |
HE Shell150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.5 |
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,700 |
Initial HE Shell Velocity875 m./s. |
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell8 % |
150 mm/55 SK C/28 on a Dop. L. C/34 mount2 х 2 pcs. |
Firing Range7.95 km. |
Rate of Fire8 shots/min. |
Reload Time7.5 sec. |
HE Shell150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.5 |
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,700 |
Initial HE Shell Velocity875 m./s. |
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell8 % |
105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/38 mount8 х 2 pcs. |
. . . Average Damage per Second132.8 |
. . . Firing Range4.5 km. |
37 mm/83 SK C/30 on a twin mount2 х 2 pcs. |
. . . Average Damage per Second20.6 |
. . . Firing Range3.51 km. |
37 mm/83 SK C/30 on a Dopp LC/30 mount6 х 2 pcs. |
. . . Average Damage per Second15.6 |
. . . Firing Range3.51 km. |
20 mm/65 C/38 on a Flak 35 Vierling L/38 mount8 х 4 pcs. |
. . . Average Damage per Second51.2 |
. . . Firing Range2.01 km. |
Maximum Speed27.3 knot |
Turning Circle Radius940 m. |
Rudder Shift Time24.5 sec. |
Surface Detectability Range16.76 km. |
Air Detectability Range12.84 km. |
Friedrich der Grosse — German Tier IX battleship.
A project developed as part of the program for a large-scale expansion of the German Navy. A further development of Bismarck-class battleships with more powerful main guns and enhanced AA defenses.
Modules
Compatible Upgrades
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Player Opinion
Performance
Based on the unrealized H-39 design plans and sharing her name with one of the Kaiser's sister ships, the Friedrich der Große (English: Frederick the Great) is essentially a super-Bismarck, sporting the same dual AB-XY turret layout (but with larger guns), the same secondary battery (but with a touch longer range), and the same Hydroacoustic Search (but with longer range and duration). Thanks to the gain in displacement, Friedrich has a significantly larger hit point pool than Bismarck, but loses a bit of maneuverability and concealment in the process.
As with Bismarck, Friedrich excels at close-range brawls where the abysmal accuracy of her main guns is less of a factor, while her powerful secondary armament combined with her decent maneuverability and turret traverse can dish out the damage. Here her turtleback armor and Hydroacoustic Search are key factors in protecting her from return fire. Unfortunately, with the rapidly increasing range and firepower at high tiers, combined with unprotected approaches on many maps, she runs a high risk of being focused and sunk if played too forward at the beginning of the game. Captains should moderate their aggression until an opportunity for a combined push and/or to run down a smaller group of enemies presents itself.
Friedrich has the option between two sets of guns: slightly faster-firing but lighter 406 mm guns, and slightly slower-firing but heavier 420 mm guns. The differences are quite marginal in practice; many captains opt to stay with the 406 mm guns as the higher rate of fire makes the poor accuracy slightly less frustrating, and the 420 mm guns cost XP and credits.Pros:
- Signature German turtleback armor scheme prevents citadels at close range
- Enhanced Hydroacoustic Search with long range and duration
- Powerful and numerous secondaries
- Decent speed and maneuverability for a ship her size
- Fast turret traverse for a battleship
- Large HP pool
Cons:
- Terrible main battery accuracy combined with poor sigma and a fewer amount of guns makes for a frustrating experience
- Secondaries are less effective at this tier
- Poor main gun arcs; A lot of broadside is needed in order to fire all 4 turrets
- Turrets can be incapacitated relatively easily
- Large turn radius
- Poor detection range
Research
Optimal Configuration
Upgrades
As a Tier IX ship, Friedrich der Grosse has access to all six Upgrade Slots. Friedrich der Grosse can build for Secondaries or AA.
- Slot 1: Main Armaments Modification 1 to improve her main battery survival.
- Slot 2: Damage Control System Modification 1 to improve her overall survival in battle.
- Slot 3: Aiming Systems Modification 1 to improve her main battery accuracy, AA Guns Modification 2 () for an AA build, or Secondary Battery Modification 1 () for a secondary build.
- Slot 4: Damage Control System Modification 2 to further improve her overall survival. Steering Gears Modification 2 is also an option to improve her maneuverability.
- Slot 5: Concealment System Modification 1 to reduce her detection range. Target Acquisition System Modification 1 () is also a viable choice if torpedoes are a recurring threat.
- Slot 6: Main Battery Modification 3 is the best option for this slot. The -20% loading time for secondary armament offered by Secondary Battery Modification 3 () is of little benefit, and Template:AA Guns Modification 3 is only recommended if you are divisioning with a carrier to guarantee an enemy CV.
Commander Skills
As a tier IX Battleship, Friedrich der Große can be built with either a secondary focus, survivability focus, or anti-aircraft focus. Secondary and anti-aircraft builds can overlap, with both taking advantage of Basic Firing Training and Advanced Firing Training. Captains may also wish to consider skills such as Fire Prevention, Concealment Expert, High Alert, Basics of Surivability, Adrenaline Rush, and Jack of All Trades. Expert Marksman is also highly recommended.
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★ |
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★★ |
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3 |
★★ |
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★★ |
★★★ |
★ |
★★ |
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★★ |
★★ |
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★★★ |
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★★ |
Key: ★★★ - Extremely Useful ★★ - Frequently Useful ★ - Occasionally Useful No stars - Meh Χ - Not recommended |
Consumables
As a tier IX German battleship, Friedrich der Große has access to the following consumables and their premium versions: Damage Control Party, Spotting Aircraft, Catapult Fighter, and Hydroacoustic Search.
Camouflage
Type 1, 2, or 5 camouflage can be equipped for credits; Types 2 or 5 are recommended at a minimum to reduce the accuracy of incoming shells.
Players who wish to spend doubloons can equip Friedrich der Große with Type 19 camouflage that lowers her detection radius and the cost for her post-battle service, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, and increases the amount of experience and credits she earns.
Signals
As a tier IX Battleship, Friedrich der Große benefits greatly from signals that improve her survivability, such as November Foxtrot, India Delta, and India Yankee. Signals that increase XP and credit earnings can also be useful, as well as those that boost her secondary battery and anti-aircraft armament.
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★★★ |
★ |
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★★ |
★ |
★★ |
★★★ |
★★★ |
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Note: Use of the Juliet Charlie signal makes detonation impossible.
Gallery
Historical Info
Historical Gallery
References
https://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_16-52_skc34.php