Thunderer

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Thunderer

Battleship | U.K. | Tier X

Tech Tree Position

General

Purchase priceSpecial

Hit Points82,900

Main Battery

457 mm/45 Mk.II in a turret4 х 2 pcs.

Rate of Fire2.31 shots/min.

Reload Time26 sec.

Rotation Speed5 deg./sec.

180 Degree Turn Time36 sec.

Firing Range21.5 km.

Maximum Dispersion228 m.

HE Shell457 mm HE Mk II

Maximum HE Shell Damage8,200

Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell63 %

Initial HE Shell Velocity757 m./s.

HE Shell Weight1814 kg.

AP Shell457 mm AP Mk II

Maximum AP Shell Damage14,900

Initial AP Shell Velocity762 m./s.

AP Shell Weight1506 kg.

Secondary Armament #1

133 mm/50 QF Mk.I on an RP10 Mk.I mount8 х 2 pcs.

Firing Range7.3 km.

Rate of Fire9 shots/min.

Reload Time6.67 sec.

HE Shell133 mm HE Mk IC

Maximum HE Shell Damage1,900

Initial HE Shell Velocity792 m./s.

Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell8 %

AA Defense

133 mm/50 QF Mk.I on an RP10 Mk.I mount8 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second68

. . . Firing Range5.19 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X on a STAAG Mk.2 mount12 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second160.8

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX on a Mk.VI mount7 х 6 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second141.4

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II on a Mk.V mount4 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second24.4

. . . Firing Range2.01 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.III on a Mk.VII mount8 х 1 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second69.6

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

Maneuverability

Maximum Speed29.5 knot

Turning Circle Radius940 m.

Rudder Shift Time10.4 sec.

Concealment

Surface Detectability Range15.19 km.

Air Detectability Range12.53 km.

Battle Levels

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13.11

Thunderer

Battleship | U.K. | Tier X

Tech Tree Position

General

Purchase priceSpecial

Hit Points82,900

Main Battery

457 mm/45 Mk.II in a turret4 х 2 pcs.

Rate of Fire2.31 shots/min.

Reload Time26 sec.

Rotation Speed5 deg./sec.

180 Degree Turn Time36 sec.

Firing Range21.5 km.

Maximum Dispersion228 m.

HE Shell457 mm HE Mk II

Maximum HE Shell Damage8,200

Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell63 %

Initial HE Shell Velocity757 m./s.

HE Shell Weight1814 kg.

AP Shell457 mm AP Mk II

Maximum AP Shell Damage14,900

Initial AP Shell Velocity762 m./s.

AP Shell Weight1506 kg.

Secondary Armament #1

133 mm/50 QF Mk.I on an RP10 Mk.I mount8 х 2 pcs.

Firing Range7.3 km.

Rate of Fire9 shots/min.

Reload Time6.67 sec.

HE Shell133 mm HE Mk IC

Maximum HE Shell Damage1,900

Initial HE Shell Velocity792 m./s.

Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell8 %

AA Defense

133 mm/50 QF Mk.I on an RP10 Mk.I mount8 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second68

. . . Firing Range5.19 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X on a STAAG Mk.2 mount12 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second160.8

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX on a Mk.VI mount7 х 6 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second141.4

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II on a Mk.V mount4 х 2 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second24.4

. . . Firing Range2.01 km.

40 mm/56 OQF Mk.III on a Mk.VII mount8 х 1 pcs.

. . . Average Damage per Second69.6

. . . Firing Range3.51 km.

Maneuverability

Maximum Speed29.5 knot

Turning Circle Radius940 m.

Rudder Shift Time10.4 sec.

Concealment

Surface Detectability Range15.19 km.

Air Detectability Range12.53 km.

Battle Levels

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X

Special

Thunderer — British special premium Tier X battleship.

After Vanguard was laid down, the further development of British battleships was aimed at increasing their dimensions. Among the options was a project with 457 mm guns that had been developed after World War I for battleships and battlecruisers of projects N and G.

Thunderer was released September 16th, 2019 in the Armory for coal. Wargaming has announced the ship will no longer be available to obtain with the release of Update 0.10.1 in early 2021.

Modules

	Rate of Fire (shots/min)	180° Turn Time (sec)	Maximum Dispersion (m)	Maximum HE Shell Damage (HP)	Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell (%)	Maximum AP Shell Damage (HP)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
457 mm/45 Mk.II in a turret	2.3	36	228	8,200	63	14,900		0	0

	Hit Points (HP)	Armor (mm)	Armor (mm)	Main Turrets (pcs.)	Secondary Gun Turrets (pcs.)	AA Mounts (pcs.)	Torpedo Tubes (pcs.)	Hangar Capacity (pcs.)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
Thunderer	82,900	19	456	4	8	4/8/12/7/8				0	0

	IDS_SHIP_PARAM_SUO_INCREASE_DIST (%)	Maximum Firing Range (km)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
Mk X mod. 1		0		0	0

	Maximum Speed (knot)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
Propulsion: 135,650 hp	29.5		0	0

Compatible Upgrades

Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Slot 4
Slot 5
Slot 6

Player Opinion

Performance

Warning: The data presented in the AA Defense sidebar section may be incorrect.
Refer to the in-game Port screens for more useful data.

Thunderer exists as the sister-ship of the Tier X U.K. battleship, Conqueror. As such, she shares many of Conqueror's in-game performance characteristics and weaknesses. Despite the similarities, Thunderer possesses certain distinguishable traits that differentiate her. Immediately, players will notice that she has access to the Defensive AA Fire  consumable. Players will also find that Thunderer is more agile, with slightly increased turret traverse speed, and decreased reload time. She deals damage to aircraft with a short-range anti-aircraft armament, which Conqueror is lacking. To balance these traits, her Repair Party  consumable is much less effective, though she has an additional charge and decreased cooldown time of this consumable in comparison to her sister-ship. Other differences include her sigma, dispersion formula, and the fuse timer settings on her armor-piercing (AP) shells.

Thunderer is equipped with dual-mounted 457mm main guns, mounted in four turrets. A full salvo unleashes eight shells which are extremely accurate, meaning that Thunderer has a very high potential to inflict devastating damage to an enemy foolish enough to show their broadside. Her large-caliber AP rounds are capable of penetrating thick armor to reach the citadels of armored ships. Players are advised to switch to high-explosive for lesser armored targets in order to avoid overpenetration. Thunderer's HE shells sport an incredible fire chance, which makes them a great option to deal with bow-in battleships or cruisers that she cannot overmatch. Her stock decreased reload time, paired with the proper upgrade module, means that Thunderer has a reload time more in line with a battlecruiser, rather than a battleship. Her excellent concealability affords her the ability to choose her engagements and wait for the opportune moment to fire. However, her armor scheme is far from being good, forcing captains to play in the back and capitalizing on enemy mistakes to inflicts serious damage. Thunderer is truly a formidable opponent, whether she be fighting naval units or aircraft. She can be customized and equipped to fit several different playstyles, and she will surely be seen excelling in her captain's desired role.

Pros:

• Large main battery gun caliber (457mm) allows AP shells to overmatch 30mm of armor.
• HE shells hit hard and have the greatest fire chance (66% with signals and commander skills) in the game.
• Excellent main battery reload speed.
• Great main battery accuracy with battlecruiser dispersion; rivals Yamato's.
• Excellent rudder shift for a battleship.
• Great concealment, as low as 12.3km with camo, comparable to techtree counterpart Conqueror.
• Decent mid-range AA suite, along with short-range AA suite comparable to techtree counterpart Conqueror.
• Has access to the Defensive AA Fire  consumable.
• Great firing angles on all turrets.
• Enhanced Repair Party  consumable heals more than standard and has a fast cooldown, similar to Vanguard's.

Cons:

• Only eight shells per salvo compared to Conqueror's twelve.
• While better than standard, Repair Party  is not as effective as Conqueror's.
• Weak armor scheme, especially against HE spam.
• Weak torpedo protection.
• Large citadel sits above the waterline and is exposed to enemy fire if not properly angled.
• Fairly poor shell velocity.
• Lacks aviation facilities.
• Shorter main battery firing range (21.5km) compared to Conqueror's 24.3km
• Very short ASW airstrike range of 6km, comparable to a cruiser's ASW airstrike range
• Playing her can occasionally result in your getting reported by several members of the enemy team due to sheer frustration.
  

Research

As a premium ship, Thunderer doesn't have any upgrades to research.

Optimal Configuration

Upgrades

The recommended upgrades for Thunderer are as follows:

• Slot 1: Main Armaments Modification 1
• Slot 2: Damage Control System Modification 1 
• Slot 3: Aiming Systems Modification 1
• Slot 4: Damage Control System Modification 2
• Slot 5: Concealment System Modification 1 
• Slot 6: Main Battery Modification 3 *

Upgrade Slot 6 - Main Battery Modification 3 is recommended for higher rate of fire, but you can also choose Gun Fire Control System Modification 2 to compensate the recent firing range nerfs and faster turret traverse time.

Commander Skills

Key skills for Thunderer commanders include Superintendent to provide her with an additional charge of her consumables.

Recommended Commander Skills
Cost (points)	Attack			Defense
1	Gun Feeder -40% time to switch shell type. ★★★	Demolition Expert +1% chance of main and secondary HE shells causing a fire +15% to the fragmentation damage area of HE ordnance when firing at submarines.	Consumables Specialist −7.5% cooldown time of all Consumables except:  Damage Control Party ,  Repair Party .	Emergency Repair Specialist -3% cooldown time of Damage Control Party  and Repair Party . ★	Incoming Fire Alert Receive a warning about a salvo fired at your ship from more than 4.5 km. ★	Preventive Maintenance −30% chance of main armament, engines, steering becoming incapacitated +15% to HP of secondary and AA guns. ★
2	Grease the Gears +20% main turret traverse speed. ★★	Inertial Fuse for HE Shells +25% armor penetration of HE shells. Base fire chance reduced by half.	Brisk So long as the ship remains undetected: +10% ship speed.	Vigilance +25% detection range of enemy torpedoes +7% damage reduction of Torpedo Protection System. .	Priority Target The detection indicator will show the number of enemies targeting you with main battery. ★	AAA & ASW Expert +15% continuous AAA and flak damage . +10% damage inflicted by depth charges. While AAA is active: −40% ship consumables reload time..
3	Super-Heavy AP Shells +7.5% AP shell damage −10% fire and flood damage received +25% fire and flood duration.	Long-Range Secondary Battery Shells +20% secondary battery firing range.	Adrenaline Rush -0.2% reload time of all armaments per 1% HP lost +0.2% AA continuous damage per 1% HP lost. ★★★	Basics of Survivability -15% repair, fire, and flooding duration. ★★	Improved Repair Party Readiness −0.8% reload time of Repair Party each time your ship receives potential damage equal to 100% of the ship's base HP. After receiving 2M HP potential damage: +1 charge of Repair Party ..	Focus Fire Training In an active priority AA sector: •  +1.5% (to 5%) immediate damage. •  +25% continuous damage. •  +1 flak burst per salvo. −10% aircraft preparation time. −15% reload time of Airstrike armament.. ★
4	Furious 1st fire / flood   −10% Main battery reload time 2nd etc. (up to 5), each   −5% Main battery reload time	Manual Secondary Battery Aiming −10% secondary battery reload time. −10% secondary battery dispersion. When firing at a manually selected target: dispersion gradually improves from -25% to -50%.	Close Quarters Combat -10% reload time of main battery if an enemy ship is spotted within secondary range.	Emergency Repair Expert Damage Control Party  and Repair Party : +1 charge (each). +10% action time . ★★★	Concealment Expert -10% detectability range of the ship. ★★★	Fire Prevention Expert -10% risk of fire. Three fires maximum. ★★★
Key: ★★★ - Extremely Useful      ★★ - Frequently Useful      ★ - Occasionally Useful     No stars - Not Useful

Consumables

Thunderer equips the following consumables:

• Slot 1: Damage Control Party 
• Slot 2: Repair Party  – 4 charges
• Slot 3: Defensive AA Fire  – 4 charges

Camouflage

As a premium ship, Thunderer comes with Default permanent camouflage and a set of permanent combat bonuses.

Signals

Recommended Signal Flags
Combat
Charlie Kilo +5% ship HP; +2.5% squadron HP.	Juliet Yankee Bissotwo -20% to flooding duration. ★★★	India Yankee -20% to fire duration. ★★★	Hotel Yankee -20% to damage received when ramming the enemy. +50% to damage dealt when ramming the enemy. ★	Victor Lima +1% chance for HE bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm causing a fire. +0.5% chance for bombs and smaller shells causing a fire. +4% chance of torpedoes causing flooding. ★★	India X-Ray +1% chance for HE bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm causing a fire. +0.5% chance for bombs and smaller shells causing a fire. ★★
Juliet Whiskey Unaone +15% chance of causing flooding.	Mike Yankee Soxisix +5% to secondary battery maximum firing range. -5% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells. -5% to secondary battery loading time. ★★	November Echo Setteseven +5% continuous AA damage at all ranges. +5% damage from flak bursts. ★	Sierra Mike +5% to the ship's maximum speed. ★★★	November Foxtrot -5% reload time on all consumables. ★★★	India Delta +20% to the amount of HP recovered when Repair Party  is used. ★★★
X-Ray Papa Unaone +10% action time of a Smoke Generator .	Sierra Bravo +10% action time of Hydroacoustic Search  -10% reload time of Defensive AA Fire .

Gallery

Historical Info

• Thunderer is Wargaming's interpretation of a post-World War II modernization of the L2 battleship design scheme from the 1920s; L2 was one of a series of design schemes for large battleships that applied lessons learned from World War I naval engagements such as the Battle of Jutland. The effort ultimately culminated in the N3 battleship and G3 battlecruiser designs before their cancellation due to the Washington Naval Treaty.
• As with the Conqueror, the lattice masts reflect the naval architecture of the Royal Navy in the years following World War II.
• Thunderer was a planned name for one of the second pair of the canceled Lion-class battleships of 1939 that preceded the Vanguard. The contract for Thunderer was scheduled for 15 November 1939 for Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company, Limited. After the start of World War II in September, construction of the Lions was suspended by the Admiralty for one year. On 15 November 1939, work was authorised to resume whenever there was available labour, but it was suspended again in May 1940. In November, the decision to suspend construction was reaffirmed and eventually all design work ceased in April 1943.

Historical Gallery

References

1. Dry Dock: Thunderer - News - World of Warships
2. Dry Dock: Thunderer - World of Warships Official Channel - YouTube

Ship Change Log

See here for links to Update notes.

• Available for testing by supertesters in the game starting from Update 0.8.5.

Testing Changes

• May 24, 2019:
  • Preliminary characteristics.
• Aug 20, 2019:
  • Main battery reload time decreased from 30 to 26 s.
  • Sigma parameter decreased from 2.0 to 1.9.
  • Dispersion formula changed from battleship to battlecruiser (buffed).

• Update 0.8.8:
  • Available for purchase in the Armory for 252,000 Coal.
• Update 0.9.2:
  • Updated hull geometry.
• Update 0.9.5:
  • Small changes to geometry and textures.
• Update 0.9.6:
  • The turning circle radius displayed in port was changed from 820 to 940 m.
• Update 0.10.0:
  • The firing range of the secondary battery was increased to 7.3 km.
• Update 0.10.1:
  • Thunderer was removed from the Armory and no longer available to purchase.
• Update 0.10.3:
  • The firing range of the main battery guns was decreased from 24.3 to 23 km.
• Update 0.10.4:
  • The firing range of the main battery guns was decreased from 23 to 21.5 km.
• Update 0.11.1:
  • Minor corrections to geometry and textures of the ship.
• Update 0.11.3:
  • Minor fixes to geometry and textures of the ship.
• Update 0.11.9:
  • Minor fixes to geometry and textures of the ship.
• Update 13.1:
  • Depth Charge Airstrike range increased from 6 to 11 km.

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